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Richard’s Correspondence On Mailing List ‘D’ with Srid (please make sure “java-scripting” is enabled in order for the tool-tips to function properly; mouse-hover on the yellow rectangular image to open; left-click on the image to hold).
VINEETO: If you still agree to use your name ‘Srid’ instead of ‘Respondent No. 1’ (as verbally discussed on the last day of your visit), I would like to receive a short note from you giving your agreement which I can then stick at the top of your report and of your correspondence pages with Richard. SRID: yes, i’m fine with using ‘srid’ instead of ‘respondent no. 1’ on the AF
website. i understand that the name would be used in the following pages, Re: Goodbye SRID (to Claudiu): [...] one has to wonder why are some folks here consistently opposed to Srid being engaged in this demonstrably successful route? RESPONDENT No. 00: Speaking for myself, it just looks like a long detour. Why not start with figuring out harmlessness – the real deal, not as a moralistic injunction – right away? Wouldn’t that be fun to figure out? SRID: As saying ‘not cool,’ while looking piercingly into his or her eyes, in response to a racist cop, living not in a country with less than lawful police-force and with no prior/ current crime committed on my part, who had just made a racist snide remark is not even remotely similar to ‘pursuing power [*with* people]’ (thus harming the said other) – rather it is all to do with both ceasing to wallow in social-identity reactions thereby buttressing the already existant victim-bully power-relations/ psychic-network (via standing up for oneself by ceasing to be a victim), thus ceasing to harm oneself (via ceasing to be a victim) and ceasing to indirectly harm the other (via facilitating the bully) and thereby getting back to feeling pleasant sooner than later – does it not make you wonder why you and some other folks get into the habit of immediately grasping onto the notion of harmlessness (as written in AFT) whenever reading what I have to report lately? Over at Gitter chat, I’ve had people to whom notions of ‘rebellion’ came to picture ... all from those two words ‘not cool’. RICHARD: G’day Srid, Just a quick note, whilst reading-through the latest posts in ‘Yahoo Groups’ online, so as to point out how those responses from your co-respondents are not necessarily [quote] ‘all’ [endquote] from those two words as the [quote] ‘power’ [endquote] you are self-evidently channelling – as per your ‘while looking piercingly into his or her eyes’ wording – is that of a police-force calibre (i.e., just one step below that of a military-force calibre). Viz.:
Those [quote] ‘pretty solid vibes’ [endquote] given forth at that breakfast place, stemming as they do from the arrogated right of ‘The State’ to act with lethal force, viscerally convey the undeniable fact that state-trained members of a police-force are officially licensed to kill, maim, or wound, in the course of duty (albeit not to the extent that members of a military-force are likewise licensed). ‘Tis no wonder they conveyed to you [quote] ‘the power to remain unfazed’ [endquote] at that breakfast place, eh? * Furthermore, you want to [quote] ‘grow and retain this power’ [endquote]. Viz.:
* Lastly, that [quote] ‘racist cop’ [endquote] scenario you have been liberally posting in various venues is purely hypothetical (i.e., an untested speculation). Viz.:
That last sentence of yours is a doozie ... do you really think, upon a sober reassessment, that your unbacked-by-lethal-force
affective vibes/psychic currents will gain dominion Regards,
Re: Goodbye SRID: G’day Richard, Good to be chatting with you! RICHARD: G’day Srid, Ha ... I am aware you wrote of a ‘cunning plan’ you had to get me writing but it did not occur to me it would be as vulpecular as this. * RICHARD: That last sentence of yours is a doozie [viz.: ‘Of course, he will have no choice but to leave me alone’]
... do you really think, upon a sober reassessment, that your unbacked-by-lethal-force affective vibes/ psychic currents will gain dominion SRID: The affective vibes/ psychic currents I would give off, in that hypothetical scenario, would be different in nature to that of the racist/ aggressive police officer (backed by lethal force or not) ... RICHARD: First of all, it is rather telling that out of the entirety of my previous note – written online whilst reading-through the latest posts on the ‘Yahoo Groups’ web-page solely to point out how the ‘power’ you are self-evidently channelling is that of a police-force calibre/ just one step below that of a military-force calibre – the portion you chose to address above (with further similarly untested speculations) is the hypothetical section. Rather than wander down ‘Speculation Lane’ with you here again is your own account of whence the affective vibes/ psychic currents are derived which you have, consequentially, been channelling for nigh-on three weeks now. Viz.:
Those [quote] ‘pretty solid vibes’ [endquote] you felt when given forth by [quote] ‘a bunch of local police guys’ [endquote] whom you met at that breakfast place – specifically noted by you at the time as being [quote] ‘the power to remain unfazed’ [endquote] as you then [quote] ‘began getting some ‘power’’ [endquote] yourself along with its evidentially confirmative hedonic-tone (‘evidentially’ as per your ‘best of all power’ wording – cannot be markedly [quote] ‘different in nature’ [endquote] unless you did not [quote] ‘learn a lot from them’ [endquote] after all. (And if you did not then why even mention it or refer to them – let alone in such complimentary and/or affirmative detail – in the first place). This is the advantage of the written and date-stamped word over a (potentially) faulty memory and/or a (potentially) selective recall. Regards,
Re: Goodbye SRID: Good to be chatting with you! RICHARD: Ha ... I am aware you wrote of a ‘cunning plan’ you had to get me writing but it did not occur to me it would be as vulpecular as this. SRID: Ha ... you must be referring to: https://gitter.im/ActualFreedom/home?at=56438d99bf9b7d0c39874bb4 ... my intention was to get you or Vineeto or Peter to participate in the Gitter chat room than merely have you resume writing to the list. RICHARD: G’day Srid, Yes, the actual exchange (on Nov 12 , 2015) is as follows. Viz.:
Of course, the above was written when that venue was still new – a bare six days after reopening it (on Nov 06, 2015) – because thirty-two days later (on Dec 14, 2015) you were making the following observation on the ‘Yahoo Groups’ forum. Viz.:
Given you were dismissive of Alan’s explanation (in your message № 21338) in regards him changing his mind (in his message № 21332) vis-à-vis a video link-up – a link-up with the clearly-expressed aim of such being more conducive to the development of *an intimate ambience* than via the written word – for the very reason he had not [quote] ‘read through the entire exchange’ [endquote] in question, for himself, it bodes well you now see such a requirement as being ‘not reasonable’. Also, a day later (Dec 15, 2015) you made the following observation. Viz.:
The way I solved that short-coming was to copy-paste the entire ‘Gitter Chat’, from Nov 06, 2015, all the way through to Dec 25, 2015, into a long text file and save it to my hard drive so as to be able to have both instant search results and full-scale scrolling at will. As the copy-paste process took several hours – only the chat-sequence which appears on-screen, plus a similar amount immediately above and immediately below, is available for selection at any one time (before its software loads the next short section and unloads the previous section) – it is highly unlikely your ‘cunning plan’ to have me ‘join the chat room’ will ever come to fruition. As your ‘...than *merely* have you resume writing to the list’ put-down of the ‘Yahoo Groups’ forum belies your very valid observations from 11-12 days ago (as in Message № 21387 and Message № 21393 further above) I will leave you with another observation you posted back then when you were not quite so disdainful of the only venue I write to (on occasion). Viz.:
* SRID (to Claudiu): [...] one has to wonder why are some folks here consistently opposed to Srid being engaged in this demonstrably successful route? RESPONDENT No. 00: Speaking for myself, it just looks like a long detour. Why not start with figuring out harmlessness – the real deal, not as a moralistic injunction – right away? Wouldn’t that be fun to figure out? SRID: As saying ‘not cool,’ while looking piercingly into his or her eyes, in response to a racist cop, living not in a country with less than lawful police-force and with no prior/ current crime committed on my part, who had just made a racist snide remark is not even remotely similar to ‘pursuing power [*with* people]’ (thus harming the said other) – rather it is all to do with both ceasing to wallow in social-identity reactions thereby buttressing the already existant victim-bully power-relations/ psychic-network (via standing up for oneself by ceasing to be a victim), thus ceasing to harm oneself (via ceasing to be a victim) and ceasing to indirectly harm the other (via facilitating the bully) and thereby getting back to feeling pleasant sooner than later – does it not make you wonder why you and some other folks get into the habit of immediately grasping onto the notion of harmlessness (as written in AFT) whenever reading what I have to report lately? Over at Gitter chat, I’ve had people to whom notions of ‘rebellion’ came to picture ... all from those two words ‘not cool’. RICHARD: Just a quick note, whilst reading-through the latest posts in ‘Yahoo Groups’ online, so as to point out how those responses from your co-respondents are not necessarily [quote] ‘all’ [endquote] from those two words as the [quote] ‘power’ [endquote] you are self-evidently channelling – as per your ‘while looking piercingly into his or her eyes’ wording – is that of a police-force calibre (i.e., just one step below that of a military-force calibre). Viz.:
Those [quote] ‘pretty solid vibes’ [endquote] given forth at that breakfast place, stemming as they do from the arrogated right of ‘The State’ to act with lethal force, viscerally convey the undeniable fact that state-trained members of a police-force are officially licensed to kill, maim, or wound, in the course of duty (albeit not to the extent that members of a military-force are likewise licensed). ‘Tis no wonder they conveyed to you [quote] ‘the power to remain unfazed’ [endquote] at that breakfast place, eh? * Furthermore, you want to [quote] ‘grow and retain this power’ [endquote]. Viz.:
SRID: For the record, I do not disagree that my power of being unfazed – that I’m channeling towards the purpose of not habitually feeling powerless anymore, via standing up for myself and not letting the bullies have their way once again (keeping me down) – *is* that of (and *derived from*) a police-force calibre (the ‘pretty solid vibes’ felt from the breakfast place). RICHARD: I have reinserted the sequence of my initial note (Message № 21441
Do you, perchance, now see that their responses have not necessarily been [quote] ‘all from those two words ‘not cool’’ [endquote] after all? * Of course, you also may not be able to see it because in your eyes your co-respondents are the [quote] ‘other’ [endquote] who, you all-inclusively declare, would want you never to have that police-force calibre power as that would mean [quote] ‘they’ [endquote] can no longer control you. Indeed, the legal entity officially known as ‘The Actual Freedom Trust’ – which you choose to characterise as [quote] ‘the AFT’ [endquote] for some unknown reason – is also the [quote] ‘other’ [endquote], in your eyes, and thus out to control you as well. Furthermore, those fellow human beings Richard, Vineeto and Peter – whose names you reduct, amalgamate/ homogenise and thus deindividualise as [quote] ‘RPV’ [endquote] and who otherwise feature as [quote] ‘old farts’ [endquote] in your mind – also constitute the [quote] ‘other’ [endquote] who are out to control you. Moreover, what is known in actualism lingo as the psychic network (a.k.a. the psychic web) – and nowhere else, as such, because actualism is entirely new to human history – has morphed into being the [quote] ‘colonial psychic network’ [endquote] in your by-now beleaguered mind. Viz.:
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Given that colonisation is not peculiar to those peoples whom you characterise as [quote] ‘White’ [endquote] – the Moguls, for just one example out of multitudinous instances throughout history, colonised most of the hundreds of states recurrently at war with each other on the Indian Subcontinent long before the Portuguese, Dutch, British and French traders ventured thus far from home circa the 15th-16th Centuries (and yet to you it is only the ‘colonization effects’ stemming from those of a European nationality which hold ‘the psyche of everyone’ on the planet in thrall) – then here is a word-of-the-day for your consideration. Viz.:
* For further consideration: in effect you are currently at war with every man, woman and child on the planet still hosting a feeling-being – affectively/ psychically at war, that is, with your police-force calibre affective/ psychic ‘power’ transmitted instantaneously via the psychic network (i.e., the psychic web connecting all feeling beings globally) irrespective of spatial extension – as per your [quote] ‘everyone (the ‘minority’ and ‘majority’)’ [endquote] wording. Lastly, do you now comprehend why Alan changed his mind about a video link-up (a link-up with the clearly-expressed aim of such being more conducive to the development of *an intimate ambience* than via the written word)? Regards, P.S.: Incidentally, your police-force calibre affective/ psychic ‘power’ is impotent when it comes to dealing with the handful of flesh-and-blood bodies populating Terra Actualis.
Re: Goodbye RICHARD: I have reinserted the sequence of my initial note (Message № 21441 SRID: I re-read your reinserted sequence and I noticed something I never totally observed before. Effectively you said the ‘pretty solid vibes’ of the police officers *stem* from the license to kill, maim or wound in the course of duty. In other words, those police officers remain unfazed simply because they *can* (unlike the civilians) kill, maim or wound any offending civilian. Thus their power is not merely self-generated, but *stems* from such an actual license to kill. In my case, however, this power would have to be self-generated as there is no such license provided. Yes, it is no wonder they conveyed to me [quote] ‘the power to remain unfazed’ [endquote] at that breakfast place. RICHARD: G’day Srid, Now you have ‘totally observed’ the salient point which prompted me to post that quick note to you in the first place a sober reassessment of your hypothetical scenario, as per the latter portion of that note of mine, will surely be conducive to such salience bearing its fruit. Viz.:
Regards,
Re: Goodbye RICHARD: I have reinserted the sequence of my initial note (Message № 21441 SRID: I re-read your reinserted sequence and I noticed something I never totally observed before. Effectively you said the ‘pretty solid vibes’ of the police officers *stem* from the license to kill, maim or wound in the course of duty. In other words, those police officers remain unfazed simply because they *can* (unlike the civilians) kill, maim or wound any offending civilian. Thus their power is not merely self-generated, but *stems* from such an actual license to kill. In my case, however, this power would have to be self-generated as there is no such license provided. Yes, it is no wonder they conveyed to me [quote] ‘the power to remain unfazed’ [endquote] at that breakfast place. RICHARD: Now you have ‘totally observed’ the salient point which prompted me to post that quick note to you in the first place a sober reassessment of your hypothetical scenario, as per the latter portion of that note of mine, will surely be conducive to such salience bearing its fruit. Viz.:
SRID: The reassessment is that I’d shrug it off and move on, as that is the best course of action in this particular context, while remaining as unfazed as I can while remembering the fact that such incidents with officers of police-force are very rare anyway (I recall just one incident in last few years) ... RICHARD: G’day Srid, Ahh ... good (I was primarily concerned about how that ill-considered attitude/ approach would get you into unnecessary strife SRID: ... whereas it is the run-of-the-mill civilians/colleagues/etc that one come in contact with on daily basis that are known to give everyday troubles - which situations still warrant an appropriate response à la ‘piercingly looking into his/her eyes’ (if necessary) ... RICHARD: I have, of course, read carefully through your reply (Message № 21451), to
my third email in this sequence (Message № 21450), regarding just whom it is that the term [quote] ‘other’
[endquote] means to you and, despite your protestations to the contrary contained therein In effect, you are telling me how you now intend to discriminate (as per your ‘still warrant’ wording) between police-force officers and what would otherwise be, were it not for your elitist worldview, your fellow citizens, colleagues, and etcetera – on the basis of those ‘run-of-the-mill’ citizens, colleagues, and etcetera, being not sanctioned by the state to resort to lethal force if required – so as to project police-force calibre affective vibes and psychic currents into their affective-psychic world-space. It appears that it has not occurred to you how this aggressive attitude/ approach of yours – your tit-for-tat Viz.:
Look, bullying in childhood is all-too-common – the identity inhabiting this flesh-and-blood body all those years ago fell victim to that very syndrome due in no small degree to being a particularly sensitive feeling-being (the perpetrators are referred to on my portion of The Actual Freedom Trust web site as ‘bully-boys and feisty-femmes’) – incurring all manner of childhood hurts. Even so, the ‘grown-up’ who carries those hurt feelings, no matter how deeply felt, over into adulthood (as in my ‘stubbornly nurse in your adult bosom’ wording further above) is surely yet to have earned the title ‘mature adult’. Speaking personally, the feeling-being inhabiting this flesh-and-blood body all those years ago instantaneously rid ‘himself’ of the bulk of those school-age hurts and slights – whilst sitting out in the sunshine one fine morning, putting pencil to paper in order to record those dastardly events for posterity, via seeing-in-a-flash that, as it was simply not possible to ever physically be a child again (and thus juvenilely susceptible to not only those bully-boys and feisty-femmes but any enabling teachers and principals as well), there was absolutely no need whatsoever to continue carrying them – which childhood hurts were so vital, as it soon became increasingly apparent thereafter, to the maintenance of the righteous indignation which fuelled ‘his’ plaints of injustice (a.k.a. ‘unfairness’) and, thus, ‘his’ mission to bring justice (a.k.a. ‘fairness’) to the world. In other words, with the dissolution of those childhood hurts the (deeply felt) need for your aggressive tit-for-tat modus
vivendi SRID: ... for already stated reasons (how it being, overall, conductive to feeling good/pleasant sooner than later). RICHARD: First and foremost, you are conflating the (affective) feeling known as ‘feeling good’ with the (hedonic) feeling you call ‘feeling pleasant’ as if they were one-and-the-same-thing when they are not. For instance:
Essentially, hedonic-tone has three characteristics: pleasure, displeasure and neither-pleasure-nor-displeasure. Thus, affectively ‘feeling good’ has a corresponding pleasurable hedonic-tone whereas affectively ‘feeling bad’ has, as an accompaniment, a displeasureable hedonic-tone (as in, speaking colloquially, it does not feel good, hedonically, to be affectively feeling bad). Now, whilst anger (for an obvious instance) has a displeasureable hedonic-tone, typically, under certain circumstances – and
for a certain type of person – a pleasurable hedonic-tone can ensue Viz.:
It is no wonder you (hedonically) feel pleasant – as per your footnoted ‘in order to consistently feel pleasant’ words as quoted further above – upon channelling that police-force calibre ‘power’ (so as to obtain dominion over those ‘run-of-the-mill’ citizens, colleagues, and etcetera), eh? ‘Tis nothing but old-fashioned gleefulness (obtained at another’s expense) under the guise of [quote] ‘standing up for oneself’ [endquote]. Viz.:
Incidentally, and in regards to taking ‘Devika’s advice’, I cannot put it any more succinctly than Claudiu did recently. Viz.:
As for your ‘is eminently sensible for a feeling being’ observation: please be advised that it was the feeling-being inhabiting this flesh-and-blood body all those years ago who successfully put into effect the third alternative to either feeling powerful (as in ‘standing up for oneself’ for instance) or feeling powerless (as in being ‘bullied, both in overt and covert ways’ for example) – to wit: feeling harmless/ innocuous (which not only dynamically defuses that entire power-structure/ power-battle way of life, so endemic in the animal realm, but thereby actively enables intimacy as well) – and not this flesh-and-blood body typing these words. Further to that point: as I have written before on this forum (in Message № 19576 and Message № 19928) how the reports/ descriptions/ explanations I share with my fellow human beings are, typically, field-tested accounts of that which has worked to deliver the goods, it is quite absurd to even think for a moment I would give advice applicable only for an actually free person to a feeling-being. * In case that is still not clear: the counsel I consistently offered to Devika – vis-à-vis her insistence on ‘standing up for oneself’ to all and sundry – came from feeling-being ‘Richard’ (i.e., from ‘his’ success) and not from this flesh-and-blood body typing these words. Moreover, during the last 13 years of her life (after transmogrifying from ‘Devika’ into ‘Irene’) she alienated almost everyone she came in contact with – of particular note her neighbours to the left; her neighbours to the right; her neighbours across the street – such that a characterisation I made en passant, over six years ago, is particularly apt in regards to my ‘thereby actively enables intimacy as well’ remark further above. Viz.:
The terminology for anyone of the other sex is *who died a lonesome bachelor*, of course, as any such self-induced lack of intimacy is not a gendered matter. Regards,
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