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Vineeto’s Correspondence on the Actual Freedom List Correspondent No 53
VINEETO: Hi, RESPONDENT: Our identity is like a sixth sense although questionable could be a tool that’s only purpose is to have us believe in God. Why should we have it? Maybe it was put there. There’s a 50 percent chance of one drawing the conclusion that God exists, there’s no evidence of it, all there we have is identity. VINEETO: To propose that ‘my’ only purpose is to believe in God begs the question as to what sort of God it is that would cause me to suffer and to inflict my suffering on others solely in order that ‘I’ should believe in Him, Her or It. Or to put it another way, if this God, whom I have to believe in, is omnipotent and all-loving then why does He, She or It not put an end to human suffering on earth? Before you speculate any further as to the purpose of the identity and if ‘it was
put there’, it may be useful to gather RESPONDENT: When we get rid of that, the chance of believing in God becomes 0 I’m told. But the benefits are supposed to be inhumanly enormous. After we lose the identity we get to experience no fear or other inhibiting emotions. VINEETO: One does not ‘lose’ one’s identity – what ‘I’ have to do to bring about the death of ‘me’ is that ‘I’ deliberately and consciously set in motion a ‘process’ that will ensure ‘my’ demise. One of the first things to do to set this ‘process’ in motion is to actively and deliberately investigate one’s own belief that there is a God. Simply to believe what is written on the Actual Freedom Trust website is to merely swap one belief for another. The challenge in actualism is to dare to find out for yourself whether or not God exists and to find out what are the tangible benefits – both to yourself and to your fellow humans beings – of ridding yourself of your malicious and sorrowful feelings. RESPONDENT: So I guess, you wouldn’t feel anything if you were standing on a train track and a train moving at 250 mi/ hr. was 3 seconds away from your occupied space, there can be two outcomes, living or dying. VINEETO: A person without a psychological and psychic identity ‘standing on the train track’ would not have any affective feelings interfering with his common sense and intelligence, which means it is highly unlikely that he or she would be standing on the train track with a train coming towards him ‘at 250 mi/hr.’ in the first place. RESPONDENT: If the man with no identity were on that track and he manages to get off in time, he would not have experienced the rush, … VINEETO: Correct. RESPONDENT: … instead it would be seen as a sensible act. VINEETO: As I said, sensibility starts way before in that unimpeded intelligence ensures that one avoids dangerous situations such as standing on a train track. RESPONDENT: But what if he were not so lucky? Would he beg to relive that instance? VINEETO: When hit by a train, any man would be dead – regardless of whether he was actually free, enlightened, awakened, realized, a loyal believer of any religion, an agnostic or an atheist. In any case, there would be no ‘being’ in existence afterwards to ‘beg to relive that instance’ – despite commonly held beliefs, physical death is the end for every body and every ‘being’, just as John Cleese described his dead parrot in ‘Faulty Towers’: ‘dead, extinct, finito, kaput, stuffed, no more, finished, obliterated’. There is no second chance – this is the one and only life each of us are living and it is solely up to each of us as to how we want to live it.
VINEETO to No 70: Peter wrote his journal in order to tell his friends and whoever was interested about the down-to-earthness of actualism and I wrote a chapter of my own to report my own experiences of success in putting actualism into practice. … To my surprise the response was by and large disinterest, indifference, cynicism, opposition, ostracization or ridicule, not only amongst my former friends but from most correspondents on the net as well. However, this did not deter me from wanting to tell my story and share my experience with the method of actualism because, just as I had been utterly delighted to have found what I sincerely aspired to, I have no doubt that other people will be similarly delighted to find a simple solution to their desire to be actually free of the human condition in toto. As such, playing on the website in my spare time has become a well-enjoyed hobby – I like computers and what they can provide. What better thing to do with my life than becoming happy and harmless and informing my fellow humans of the fact that actualism delivers the goods. RESPONDENT: No one will bother to read what you wrote so why write? VINEETO: Do you claim to be omniscient in that you think you can speak for everyone else on this list? Whatever the case, as your next sentence demonstrates, you for one did ‘bother to read’ what I wrote, albeit inaccurately. RESPONDENT: I suppose you’re taking a break from your physically strenuating job – understandable. VINEETO: Whatever you find ‘understandable’ has nothing to do with my present situation. This is what I wrote –
If I worked at such a job today it would not be strenuous at all because it was the insidious identity inside this body that used to make a job, any job, ‘strenuating’. Now that I am virtually free from malice and sorrow ‘I’ as identity have lost most of ‘my’ power to throw a spanner in the works of enjoying this moment of being alive – whatever it is I happen to be doing or not doing. RESPONDENT: As long as you keep at the rate you do then I have no problem. VINEETO: Now here is something to mull over – if you don’t like what actualists have to say then why do you choose to write on the only actualist mailing when there is on the whole world wide web when there is a myriad of discussion groups and mailing lists to choose from? Vineeto’s & Richard’s Text ©The Actual Freedom Trust: 1997-. All Rights Reserved. Disclaimer |
