Vineeto’s Correspondence on the Actual Freedom List Correspondent No 68
VINEETO: Welcome to the Actual Freedom Mailing list. RESPONDENT: My name is <...> and I’ve just joined the list. I’m glad to report that through my own efforts I’ve actually made considerable progress toward actualism. ‘I’ have already removed most if not all of ‘my’ ‘social identities.’ Came to the conclusion quite a while ago that there is nothing more to ‘me’ than ‘my’ body, and that death is the absolute end. (Also that time is a function of the universe and that it doesn’t make sense to think of the universe as beginning and ending.) VINEETO: When you talk about having made ‘considerable progress toward actualism’ I presume that you are referring to the ‘levels of freedom’ described on your website –
VINEETO: Please note that these three levels of freedom as described appear to have nothing at all to do with actualism. Actualism is a method to free oneself – by oneself – of malice and sorrow, in order to become both harmless and happy. If you are interested I recommend to make yourself more acquainted with what an actual freedom from the human condition is about, and the ‘Introducing Actual Freedom’ is an easy starting point. I also recommend Richard’s article on ‘This Moment of Being Alive’ as it describes the method of actualism briefly and concisely. RESPONDENT: I’ve made some progress toward eliminating my ‘instinctual identity’ – part of which I call the ‘breeding motivation.’ VINEETO: This does seem to be somewhat at odds with what you say on your website – ‘the urgent antidote is for individuals to empower themselves – and free themselves from the clutches of their would-be oppressors’, which appears to be proposing strengthening one’s instinctual identity in order to be better able to succeed in the ongoing battle that human beings have waged with each other for millennia – a battle which will continue unabated unless and until individual members of the species come to their senses. RESPONDENT: I’m glad to report that through my own efforts I’ve actually made considerable progress toward actualism. ‘I’ have already removed most if not all of ‘my’ ‘social identities.’ Came to the conclusion quite a while ago that there is nothing more to ‘me’ than ‘my’ body, and that death is the absolute end. (Also that time is a function of the universe and that it doesn’t make sense to think of the universe as beginning and ending.) VINEETO: When you talk about having made ‘considerable progress toward actualism’ I presume that you are referring to the ‘levels of freedom’ described on your website –
Please note that these three levels of freedom as described appear to have nothing at all to do with actualism. Actualism is a method to free oneself – by oneself – of malice and sorrow, in order to become both harmless and happy. If you are interested I recommend to make yourself more acquainted with what an actual freedom from the human condition is about, and the ‘Introducing Actual Freedom’ is an easy starting point. I also recommend Richard’s article on ‘This Moment of Being Alive’ as it describes the method of actualism briefly and concisely. RESPONDENT: Your presumption is incorrect – see http://www.buildfreedom.com/content/reciprocality/ What’s described there as ‘Ghost Not’ is very close to what you call ‘social identity.’ VINEETO: ‘Ghost Not’ may give some clues to intellectually understanding certain aspects of one’s social identity but in actualism one experientially and actually frees oneself from one’s social identity. The links you provided and the fact that you sent your answer less than an hour after receiving my post both indicate that you appear not to have not acquainted yourself with what an actual freedom from the human condition means and in what way it differs from an intellectual-only understanding of certain aspects of one’s social conditioning.
RESPONDENT: I’ve made some progress toward eliminating my ‘instinctual identity’ – part of which I call the ‘breeding motivation.’ VINEETO: This does seem to be somewhat at odds with what you say on your website – ‘the urgent antidote is for individuals to empower themselves – and free themselves from the clutches of their would-be oppressors’, which appears to be proposing strengthening one’s instinctual identity in order to be better able to succeed in the ongoing battle that human beings have waged with each other for millennia – a battle which will continue unabated unless and until individual members of the species come to their senses. RESPONDENT: The quote you selected has nothing to do with ‘breeding motivation’ – see #TL05AA: The Breeding Motivation: What You Can Do About It http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl05aa.shtml and #TL12: How to Achieve Emotional Control http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl12.shtml VINEETO: The quote you dismissed as irrelevant was relevant to the comment you made about eliminating your instinctual identity because your suggestion as how to deal with the savage instinctual passions of fear and aggression is to encourage your readers to ‘free themselves from the clutches of their would-be oppressors’. The point I was making was that it does seem odd that on one hand your website endorses individuals empowering themselves and yet you say that personally you have made some progress in eliminating your instinctual identity – I understand empowering to mean strengthening, not weakening. What you and others have written on ‘breeding motivation’ appears to relate to only one aspect of the tender instinctual passions of nurture and desire and suggestion to overcome the ‘breeding motivation’ are self-improvement and self-empowerment techniques – I could find no mention of ‘eliminating [the] ‘instinctual identity’’. As for the article on ‘How to Achieve Emotional Control’ from Mark Lindsay – it shows the vast difference between the approach that you endorse and that of actualism. For instance, the author says –
In contrast, in actualism it is clear via observation and experience that the sensate experience (sensation) is first; the affective experience (feelings) second; the cerebral experience (thought) third. See:
In contrast, in actualism I don’t aim to control my emotions because I know that ‘I’ am my emotions. I know that the only way to become free from the instinctual passions of fear, aggression, nurture and desire is by becoming free from ‘me’, totally. RESPONDENT: In any case, in my original email I didn’t claim that there was anything on any of my websites that was in accord with actualism. I claimed that I had made considerable progress toward actualism. Also note that any progress I make toward actualism occurs in my head, not on a website. Furthermore, anything I wrote in the past may not reflect accurately what I now think. VINEETO: Indeed you didn’t claim that there was anything on your website that was in accord with actualism but you have made reference to three links to your website in this post to support your claim that ‘I’ve actually made considerable progress toward actualism’. I find it somewhat strange that on one hand you distance yourself from the publications on your website about a ‘Free World Order’ while at the same time you point me to three links on the very same website, one of which is an article written by someone else, in order to substantiate your claim that you have made ‘considerable progress toward actualism’. RESPONDENT: If you’re interested in disputing my claim that I’ve made considerable progress toward actualism, a more effective way might be to ask me a series of questions. I’ll reply to your questions, and then you can use my replies to indicate to me how to make further progress. VINEETO: The links you have provided indicate that you have yet to understand the vital differences between actualism and traditional ‘freedom techniques’. This is not surprising given that an actual freedom from the human condition is entirely new to human consciousness. You are not the first person to confuse an actual freedom with whatever freedom they are already pursuing ... and you will not be the last. Asking you questions would be a waste of your time and mine unless you first read what is on offer on the Actual Freedom Trust website. RESPONDENT: I appreciate your assistance and guidance. VINEETO: I did give you ‘assistance and guidance’ by pointing out several links to start your investigation into the nature of actualism. Today I have given you two more links and there is a vast library of topics where you can explore whatever topic is of interest to you. Happy exploring. Vineeto’s & Richard’s Text ©The Actual Freedom Trust: 1997-. All Rights Reserved. Disclaimer and Use Restrictions and Guarantee of Authenticity |