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Vineeto’s Correspondence on the Actual Freedom List Correspondent No 82
RESPONDENT No 32: (...) Speaking of movies (so much can be done in this realm), is the lady in the video admiring Richard... or is it just my impression? RESPONDENT: The lady concerned seems to have a slight German accent. Is it you Vineeto? VINEETO: Yes, it is me. As for your correspondent’s impression that ‘the lady in the video [is] admiring Richard’ – if one actually turns on the sound and listens to the first sentence ‘the lady’ says, her accompanying facial expression is self-explanatory. Regardless of others’ impressions the experience I had at the time, and still have, is not of admiration but of dedication – not to Richard, of course, but to an actual freedom from the human condition and I am vitally interested in what Richard has to say on the topic as he is the only person who can give qualified experiential information about how to reach this freedom. One has to have experience of such a dedication, however, in order to recognize it as such in another – else one falls into ‘the intuition trap’ of ‘reading’ into the video conversations something that is not.
RESPONDENT No 32: (...) Speaking of movies (so much can be done in this realm), is the lady in the video admiring Richard... or is it just my impression? RESPONDENT: The lady concerned seems to have a slight German accent. Is it you Vineeto? VINEETO: Yes, it is me. As for your correspondent’s impression that ‘the lady in the video [is] admiring Richard’ – if one actually turns on the sound and listens to the first sentence ‘the lady’ says, her accompanying facial expression is self-explanatory. Regardless of others’ impressions the experience I had at the time, and still have, is not of admiration but of dedication – not to Richard, of course, but to an actual freedom from the human condition and I am vitally interested in what Richard has to say on the topic as he is the only person who can give qualified experiential information about how to reach this freedom. One has to have experience of such a dedication, however, in order to recognize it as such in another – else one falls into ‘the intuition trap’ of ‘reading’ into the video conversations something that is not. RESPONDENT: Yes, I recognise the look of dedication. It had not occurred to me to interpret your facial expressions, posture, gestures or mannerisms as admiration or adulation. Before the German accent gave clues to your identity I had an intuitive impression of a serene and sincere person who has spent a long time on the spiritual and/or humanitarian path and has now gone beyond it. Not a bad intuitive guess for once. VINEETO: Given that it is no secret that I know Richard personally and that I am
also the only woman writing about actualism on this list, wouldn’t you agree that your ‘intuition’ is not intuition RESPONDENT: <…> It is interesting – more interesting than I would have expected – to put a face on actual freedom / happiness and harmlessness. It should not matter to any great extent what an actualist looks like, but I can’t help being somewhat relieved that neither you nor Richard are like this :- <snipped link of Simpson cartoon character> Of course, Peter hasn’t made an appearance yet so there remains some cause for concern, but things are looking good so far ... touch wood. VINEETO: I have noticed the tendency on mailing lists for many people to not consider other correspondents as flesh and blood human beings, let alone as fellow human beings and they consequently don’t treat their correspondents the same way as they treat people whom they meet in person. Additionally, a person being actually free from the instinctually passions is not something ‘I’ as a passionate identity can imagine, let alone fully grasp, because being free from instinctual passions is, and will always be, outside of ‘my’ experience. A video may provide some additional information such as ‘facial expressions, posture, gestures or mannerisms’ but as you can see from the numerous comments made on this list, when one retains a sarcastic and cynical attitude, ‘my’ intuition will easily find even more reasons to not embark on the path to becoming happy and harmless. Vineeto’s & Richard’s Text ©The Actual Freedom Trust: 1997-. All Rights Reserved.
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