A Dialogue With Konrad
KONRAD: I am going to tell you my story (...) And then it happened. I had the attack I formerly had at the moment of falling asleep. But now I was wide awake! A tremendous pressure wave penetrated from below my spine into my skull. It was exactly at the moment whereby I understood (...) It was absolutely nothing! However, this insight had as its side effect this pressure wave, going through my body. And it hurt! It hurt terribly! However, it had solved my problem. After this the ‘process’ that had started never stopped. The first couple of years it remained very painful (...) Receiving attack after attack. My body had to adapt. I had at the beginning many doubts about what was happening to me. Only after I had read a number of books about J. Krishnamurti, and had learnt that he had gone through the same hell, I knew I did not have some mental disorder, but that this process was, in fact, the greatest discovery the East has made.
RICHARD: I read your story with interest, and only for the sake of brevity have I cut out all but the most important part in order to paste it above. But all of what you wrote has that ring of verisimilitude that is impossible to not recognise. And as you have been living with this ‘process’ for seventeen years, you have had ample time to live it through and through in all and varied circumstances. That is ample time to discover if enlightenment itself is the genuine article for freeing oneself from the Human Condition ... or a delusion. I would be interested to hear your views.
KONRAD: I am still working on a synthesis between East and West. I think this is the best place to start. My arrogance comes from the fact, that I am pure Western, but this process is not understood in the West. When I confront people with it, they think that I am imagining things. They do this quite severely. Probably because I look so ordinary. So every time when I talk to others about psychological matters, and I point them out that there is something real to be found in the East, they do not want to hear it. For they think, that I am trying to put myself above them. They try to force me in saying that what I see happening inside of me is a form of self delusion. And if I do not budge, they turn away. Nobody looking that ordinary can contain something out of the ordinary that is worth while. Besides, everybody here thinks that that inner stuff of the East is just crap.
RICHARD: It is simply a case that enlightenment has been the province of the East for so long that it has become an integral part of the culture, but only recently has it gained some credence in the West. Previously, in the West, the most one could aspire to – with society’s support – was to become an illuminated saint ... a situation somewhat similar to the Hare Krishna devotees ... but enlightened? No way!
However, there are more and more Westerners discovering enlightenment these days ... and a lot of material is being generated, both in the printed word and on audio and video tape.
KONRAD: But I do not deny what I do understand and what I know I understand, just because others say it is impossible. Still, I offer what I have to offer. I am prepared to stand corrected by anybody who does this, no matter who this is. For every honest person can contribute to any other honest person.
RICHARD: I like your approach, for the entire subject of enlightenment needs to be brought out into the open and discussed freely and without reservation. Here in the West we have a vital opportunity to put our rational minds to work and iron out all those mystical and other metaphysical aspects of freedom from ‘I’ that permeates Eastern Enlightenment so badly. For example, in the part of your story that I have not included above, you briefly mention how the evolutionary theory appealed to you more than the creationist vision of the Christian Bible. Where do you stand on the whole issue of re-incarnation? What about being ‘Birthless and Deathless’ or ‘Unborn and Undying’? Is there, for you, an Immortality, an Eternity? Is the ‘I’ the ego ... or is it both the ego and the soul? Is freedom from the Human Condition, in your experience, an end to ‘being’ in its entirety? Or is there a ‘presence’ that pre-dates birth and post-dates death?
KONRAD: The only thing I ask is simply this: Do not ask me to deny myself simply because you dismiss it beforehand. You may correct me, but I allow no one to deny that what I know to be a fact. Maybe you, or anybody else for that matter, can help me by some suggestions, now that you know what the problem is that causes my arrogance.
RICHARD: Well, I do not consider you have to be arrogant. If one knows, one knows ... and that is that. Other people can either like it or lump it ... it is they who are missing out on the ending of animosity and anguish. Humility is the hall-mark of the saints ... and is a pretentious attempt to curry favour for their post-mortem reward. One does not have to appease a vengeful god any more.
KONRAD: The rest of my life up till now is devoted to trying to reconcile this strange process with the Western orientation. My discovery of Objectivism has done much in that direction. But I am still working on a synthesis between East and West .
RICHARD: Do you have some observations about life, the universe and what it is to be a human being? I would like to know much more than what has come through in your E-Mails so far.
KONRAD: I study, I study, I study. I have studied mathematics, physics, biology, philosophy, Law, Economics, Psychology. I also teach some of these subjects. Especially I teach logic and epistemology. I have learnt to program the computer in several languages. I have investigated music, and have composed meditation music. I have written books and articles about physics, relations, economy, logic, quantum mechanics etc. I think about the nature of time, the nature of concepts up to the point whereby I even think I can disprove Kurt Godel (I am working on this now), the nature of money. The list is endless. In fact, the only thing I have done up till now with all of my free time is study, study, study.
RICHARD: Do you have a Web Page?
KONRAD: Thank you very much for your mail. It is for me a very unexpected positive reaction.
RICHARD: It was a ‘positive reaction’ because of your description: ‘a tremendous pressure wave penetrated from below my spine into my skull. It was exactly at the moment whereby I understood (...) It was absolutely nothing!’ This tallies almost identically with what I went through in 1981, so I know, from first-hand experience, that something definitive occurred for you.
KONRAD: To begin with, you say: ‘However, there are more and more Westerners discovering enlightenment these days ... and a lot of material is being generated, both in the printed word and on audio and video tape’. What material are you referring to? Generated by who? The reason I ask is because maybe I can contribute.
RICHARD: I was referring to the emergence of spiritually awakened westerners that have appeared on the scene over the last fifteen to twenty years. I was also referring to the increased interest in matters pertaining to enlightenment – as is evidenced by the E-Mail List we are both subscribed to. Such phenomenon did not exist twenty years ago.
‘Generated by who’ ? A short list would include Ms. Antoinette Gangaji; Mr. Barry Long; Mr. Franklin Jones; Ms. Suzanne Segal; Mr. Peter Jones; Mr. Scott Morrison; Mr. Michael Barnett, Mr. Andrew Cohen; ... to name but a few westerners who have attained some sort of self-realisation that has all the hallmarks of eastern enlightenment. They all use the terminology of the east and generally align themselves with some eastern master who has been instrumental in awakening them.
They all publish their own books, audio tapes and video tapes.
KONRAD: I do not quite understand, what you mean by the words: ‘The Human Condition’.
RICHARD: The Human Condition is a term that refers to the situation that all human beings find themselves in when they emerge here as babies. The term refers to the contrary and perverse nature of all peoples of all races and all cultures. There is ‘good’ and ‘bad’ in everyone ... all humans have a ‘dark side’ to their nature and a ‘light side’. The battle betwixt ‘Good and Evil’ has raged down through the centuries and it requires constant vigilance lest evil gets the upper hand. Morals and ethics seek to control the wayward self that lurks deep within the human breast ... and some semblance of so-called ‘peace’ prevails for the main. Where morality fails to curb the ‘savage beast’, law and order is maintained ... at the point of a gun.
KONRAD: I am also curious about your own background.
RICHARD: I am fifty years old, the father of four adult children and grandfather of seven grandchildren. I was born in a small country town on the south-west coast of Australia, where my parents ran a dairy farm. I attended the local State School until I was fifteen. I worked at various farming jobs until I was seventeen, whereupon I voluntarily joined the Australian Army. By age nineteen I was in a war-torn foreign country, dressed in a jungle-green uniform and carrying a loaded rifle in my hands. This was to be the turning point of my life, for up until then, I was a typical western youth, raised to believe in God, Queen and Country.
Humanity’s inhumanity to humanity – society’s treatment of its subject citizens – was driven home to me, there and then, in a way that left me appalled, horrified, terrified and repulsed to the core of my being with a sick revulsion. I saw that no one knew what was going on and – most importantly – that no one was ‘in charge’ of the world. There was nobody to ‘save’ the human race ... all gods were but a figment of a feverish imagination. Out of a despairing desperation, that was collectively shared by my fellow humans, I saw and understood that I was as ‘guilty’ as any one else. For in me – as is in everyone – was both ‘good’ and ‘bad’ ... it was that some people were better at controlling their ‘dark side’. However, in a war, there is no way anyone can control any longer ... ‘evil’ ran rampant. I saw that fear and aggression ruled the world ... and that these were instincts one was born with. Thus started my search for freedom from the Human Condition.
KONRAD: Where do you live? I try to make a more personal contact. Not that it is important as such, but in this way I can begin a dialogue by taking the concepts you use as a starting point.
RICHARD: Yes, I live on the most easterly point of the Australian seaboard in a small coastal village called Byron Bay. I am very pleased to make personal contact, and look forward to what may be a fruitful and illuminating discussion about life, the universe and what it is to be a human being. You will find a short article about myself and my experiences under ‘A Brief Personal History’ on my Web Page. Perhaps you would care to access it and see for yourself whether we have anything in common to discuss? Publishing my discoveries on the Internet is a small start, but who knows what may grow out of it ... maybe something ... maybe nothing. But at least it is a start.
There is a lot to read, because I have a lot to say ... and what I have to say is very controversial indeed. You will notice that, where I invite feedback from correspondents, that there has not been too many genuinely interested so far, but it is a difficult subject to grasp. Also, running the web-page is a recent experiment of mine ... I am a newcomer to the Internet myself.
KONRAD: I have the following question. From that experience in 1981, did something remain present? Let me be more precise. Do you still feel a ‘process’ going on inside of you?
RICHARD: No, there is absolutely nothing that remains present ... and the ‘process’ is over, forever.
KONRAD: What can you say about the frequency of the ‘process’ in relation to your heart beat? Is it synchronous or asynchronous? Please describe as precisely as possible. For there can be said something definite about it, that only somebody who has this process can tell.
RICHARD: You are referring to phenomenon that the Indian Mystics call ‘Kriyas’. In the Indian tradition, where they are more familiar with the effects of Spiritual Energies, they use the word ‘mudra’ to describe the gestures or poses that your body can spontaneously assume when the Spirit-Current starts flowing through it. They also use the word ‘kriya’ to describe the spontaneous rhythms or movements and sounds that pulse through your body as the Spirit-Current moves you.
Such spontaneous kriyas vary from person to person, and though there are similarities that are easily recognised, there is no single kriya that is the particular determining one that indicates to oneself or others that one’s process is the genuine experience. Thus, for you, it would seem that the kriya that is most prevalent is this process that operates in relation to your heart beat – be it either synchronous or asynchronous for you.
What I could relate to, in your experience, was the description: ‘a tremendous pressure wave penetrated from below my spine into my skull’. This fits in with some scientific discoveries which locate the ‘seat of consciousness’ in the ‘Substantia Nigra’ which is situated about one third of the way down the brain-stem in the ‘Reticular Activating System’. This is, of course, a matter of debate in the scientific circles ... as are most matters scientific. I, personally, favour this diagnosis as it fits my experience exactly. I had a constant pressure-pain in the base of my skull for six months after my 1981 experience (and for thirty months after my 1992 experience). This pressure-pain waxed and waned in intensity and would produce a convulsive jerking of my left leg for periods varying from five minutes to an hour. I have had flashing lights ‘zapping’ in front of my eyes; I have had ‘rushes’ of energy surging up through my diaphragm; I have had intense tingling sensations on the surface of my skin; I have had liquid sounds ‘gurgling’ through my brain; I have had singing in my ears; I have been telepathic; I have been telemetric; I have accessed the ‘Akashic Record’; I have ... the list goes on and on.
They all amount to nothing in the end – they are but physical, emotional, mental and psychic adumbrations that indicate merely that a ‘process’ is going on. It is important to not get hung up on these manifestations and to go with what is happening to the very end.
KONRAD: I have just re-read your mail. To be honest, I was hesitant to write to you. Why? Well, as you can see from my story, and the subsequent discussion, my orientation is pure western. I am a westerner, on who this ‘process’ has been thrown. This means, that my language is completely western. I sensed in the way you express yourself a lot of the eastern framework of consciousness. That is not the way I express myself.
RICHARD: Any use of the eastern framework of consciousness is only made in order to make the entire subject of spiritual enlightenment – and going beyond that into an actual freedom – intelligible for those that are interested in this sort of thing. One has to start where people are at and proceed from there. The eastern framework of consciousness has filtered through into the western framework quite rapidly in the last fifteen to twenty years, and has even entered into the popular culture. My orientation is neither eastern nor western: I only deal in facts and actuality. The western culture is as much permeated with metaphysical matters as the east – only in a different format. It is even pervades physics and cosmology, and we have Mr. Albert Einstein to thank for that!
I have received your article about time and the big bang and will comment in a future post, when I have had more time to consider it fully.
KONRAD: You, as I also and J. Krishnamurti, have seen that all this ‘enlightenment’ business, existing for 7000 years, or probably more, has indeed not offered any solution to the human condition. Now, after reading your description of what you have gone through, I fully understand what you mean by the term ‘human condition’, and am now able to comment on it. What I put forward is this: No state of enlightenment, however intense, profound, free, blissful, ‘I’ – less, ‘Self’ – less, or even ordinary (some boast on even this), can do this.
RICHARD: I am well-pleased that we are in agreement regarding the failure of enlightenment. I would question your inclusion of Mr. Jiddu Krishnamurti in this as he was clearly in a state of enlightenment himself. He condemned Gurus and Gods, but not enlightenment itself. In fact, he was in reverence of [quote] ‘That which is Sacred, Holy’ [end quote]. In a biography, written by Ms. Pupal Jayakar, she relates a scene wherein Mr. Jiddu Krishnamurti said that: ‘There is that which is beyond thought, that which is sacred, holy. That I bow down to; that I would prostrate myself to’. If her recollection of the incident is a factual record of what actually took place, then it is obvious that Mr. Jiddu Krishnamurti was still trapped by the state of enlightenment itself ... by the veneration of what he named ‘The Absolute’ (still a god by whatever name). And there are many, many other instances throughout the extensive writings, by both himself and others, that clearly points to the fact that he was not free of the Human Condition.
(Editorial note: the exact quote is as follows: [Ms. Pupul Jayakar]: ‘... the feeling of presence was overpowering, and soon my voice stopped. Krishnaji turned to me, ‘Do you feel It? I could prostrate to It?’ His body was trembling as he spoke of the presence that listened. ‘Yes, I can prostrate to this, that is here’. Suddenly he turned and left us, walking alone to his room’. page 364; Jayakar, Pupul: ‘Krishnamurti – A Biography’; Harper & Row; San Francisco; 1986).
In enlightenment, one does not eradicate malice and sorrow, one transcends them. ‘Transcend’ means to rise above, which implies that what you have transcended still exists, only it is beneath you now. This is borne out by the ‘Enlightened Beings’ themselves, who generally state that they have eliminated the ego and transcended duality ... I have yet to come across any ‘Enlightened Master’ who consistently states that they have eliminated duality ... if there are any at all who say that.
My experience of being enlightened is that as a soul (Eternal Self), one was sheltered and protected from sorrow and malice by a cocoon of Divine Compassion and Love Agapé ... and my experience was affirmed by what I read in various books. Once again, Ms. Pupal Jayakar describes how the people around Mr. Jiddu Krishnamurti were not to mention the word ‘evil’ as it would send him ‘shrinking’ – if my memory serves me correct – and he stated that he had always ‘felt protected’ and that ‘there was a repository of ‘Good’ into which the ‘Bad’ was always trying to enter’. Mr. Barry Long is reported to have said: ‘The silver-tongued Devil is Eternal’.
In actual freedom both sorrow and malice are eliminated, along with the ego and the soul. Evil does not exist in the physical world, it exists only in the human psyche ... eliminate the psyche in its entirety and you have eliminated both Good and Evil. (‘Good’ is a psychic phenomenon created to combat ‘Evil’). As the ‘Enlightened Beings’ have only transcended duality, they have to cling to ‘The Good’ in order to resist ‘The Bad’.
KONRAD: The Human Condition has therefore two problems to solve, that are completely mutually exclusive. The problem of self control and the problem of control over the world. So I put forward something new. About the human condition I have the following to say: Let us combine the greatest discovery of the East with that of the West. We need the power of Logic from the West to control the world. And we need the power of self control that the East has discovered to control our consciousness. And they are both equally important. This is my answer. As far as I know, I am the first to see this as an answer to the human condition. Therefore now I consider it is time to come forward.
RICHARD: I see the way your mind is working ... and it sounds correct until one questions the basic premise upon which you build your case. It revolves around the question of control. You have, as a tacit assumption, that control is both necessary and desirable. As you are a proponent of logic, it behoves you to question that which you take to be fact as your starting point. My question is: Why is there a need for control? ‘Who’ is being controlled ... and by ‘who’. In other words: who is the controller and who is being controlled?
In your E-Mails to me you clearly state that there is still an ‘I’ in you. You have gone on to say that there are ‘two ‘I’s’ ... I and SELF’. Can we talk more about this ‘process’ that you are experiencing? In my experience, the ‘process’ ended when both ego and soul were extinguished forever. I am assuming, for the sake of communication, that your terminology (I and SELF ) correlates with my terminology (ego and soul). We need to establish whether this assumption is correct and precise before we can proceed.
Then we can investigate as to whether this ‘process’ that you are undergoing is yet to complete its task.
KONRAD: I do not believe you, if you say that this ‘process’ is over, where you are concerned ... in me the steady beat of the ‘process’ has been going on continuously, from the first moment when it started.
RICHARD: Yes, this is something I would like to explore with you. A ‘process’, which starts with an intense question as to the ‘why’ of existence, is a means whereby the psychological and psychic entities living a parasitical existence within the flesh and blood body can be expelled forever. The ego is the psychological entity and the soul is the psychic entity ... ‘I’ and ‘me’, shall we say.
Now ‘I’ can not get rid of ‘me’ and ‘me’ can not get rid of ‘I’. This is somewhat akin to that adage of being unable to pull oneself up by the bootstraps ... the eliminator is the self-same thing as is being eliminated. Hence the necessity of the ‘process’ to do the eliminating. So far, so good.
Therefore, ‘I’ and ‘me’, having the inborn instinct for survival at any cost, accommodate themselves to this potential evictor ... one learns to live with this threat to one’s very being by turning the ‘process’ to one’s advantage. The ‘process’ now imbues one with various ‘powers’ which are exciting to these ‘beings’ within, for now they have what they have been lacking all along; the ability to perform miracles.
Thus the ‘process’ – which was to be a means to an end – has been subverted by the cunning entities into being an end unto itself.
KONRAD: It is where I focus my attention on when I want to see the ‘I’-ness of my own ‘I’, or the functioning of the SELF ... every time I try to understand it, it intensifies up to the point whereby I still do not understand it, but a kind of ‘mirror’ effect occurs, whereby the acting ‘I’ that tries to understand it becomes visible itself, directly, as the willed thought, including the action of trying to understand, of which it is at that moment composed ... it is as if I try to grab it, but what happens is that it grabs me, resulting in complete understanding of the acting part of the thought process, that is ‘I’ at that moment.
RICHARD: Okay ... what I see occurring is that, although ‘I’ is taken to be enduring – having continuity over time – ‘I’ am not. ‘I’ exist only in the present, and when a new present comes into existence, a new ‘I’ does too. Usually, people are not aware of this factor ... but obviously the ‘process’ is enabling you to see that ‘I’, the acting part of thought, is ‘I’ in this present. This will loosen one from the addiction to the notion of a permanent ‘I’ existing for the term of one’s natural life ... and beyond, for those that believe in such things.
KONRAD: This process can even be intensified in this way up to the point, that all thought, all thinking, and therefore the ‘I’ itself stops. This is also what I meant, when I said that this ‘process’ gives complete control over the contents of consciousness. It even goes so far, that when I have a false insight, it intensifies spontaneously, until the falsity of the insight has been made clear, whenever this is important for the situation at hand. In this way it has kept me many times out of my sleep.
RICHARD: I can relate to the being ‘kept out of my sleep’ ... during my period with the ‘process’ I would oft-times be wide-awake for days and nights in a row. Or only an hour’s sleep here or an hour and a half there. As for all thought stopping ... such a stopping can only be temporary and spasmodic because thought is necessary in order to operate and function in the world of people, things and events. One of the side-effects of thought stopping is that the ‘thinker’ also stops ... but only temporarily. However, this side-effect has kept otherwise intelligent peoples, all around the world, busily engaged in endeavouring to eliminate the ‘thinker’ – the ‘I’ – by stopping thought. Some become fanatical about this spiritual practice ... a practice which ultimately leads to delusion, I might add.
As for having ‘complete control over the contents of consciousness’ ; here we are back into the subject of power ... and powers. Personally, I have no need for control ... or power. There is no ‘I’ or ‘me’ to either do the controlling or to need being controlled. The quest for power and control is but one of the insidious characteristics of two desperate entities that correctly sense their impending demise.
KONRAD: How anybody can have control over everything within consciousness without something like that is, to be honest, completely beyond me. Or, to put it blunt, I think it simply to be impossible .
RICHARD: Indeed. But as I said above, with the extinction of ‘I’ and ‘me’, there is no need to ‘have control over everything within consciousness’ . One is only happy and harmless, for when one is rid of the entities, one is rid of malice and sorrow.
KONRAD: You must be able to feel what your hand touches to know whether you control something with it or not. In the same manner you must be able to feel the contents of your consciousness directly to be able to control completely what is going on in it.
RICHARD: I see the analogy that you are making, but like all analogies it does not hold water when taken to its limit. The hand, being physical, has an intrinsic ‘knowing’ due to the nerve endings ability to automatically transmit felt information to the brain. The brain can then assess the situation in order to issue electro-chemical ‘instructions’ to the hand to either hold or let go ... which is what you call having ‘control’ . This ‘control’ is but the physical ability to manipulate objects in the material environment.
But it does not correlate to being able to ‘feel the contents of your consciousness’ . That is a different kind of ‘feel’. It is the use of language, you see. That word ‘feel’ serves two masters!
KONRAD: It is exactly this ‘process’ that solves this problem. For it enables to ‘touch’ the thoughts and feelings that are going on in you directly, as if they are things. In this way everything that is going on inside you can be controlled in the same way as your hand is able to manipulate things in the outside world.
RICHARD: Once again: I have nothing going on inside me that needs controlling. Nor is there any ‘controller’ in there to do it, anyway.
I look forward to your feedback on this very important issue.
KONRAD: Yes, we do have lots of things to discuss. I am convinced that an exchange with you will be very interesting for both of us. The reason why I have not answered your questions yet, is simply because I am considering various options of continuation. I have the following (rhetorical) questions. Should I begin at existence, work through life, to the social order and then to consciousness?
RICHARD: I plunk for going direct to consciousness anytime. Until consciousness is understood and that understanding actualised, any investigation into existence, life and the social order can only be speculation built upon invalid data.
KONRAD: Or is it better to go right into the question of control and why it is so important? The first approach has as its advantage that you will understand my perspective completely. However, I think that it will take long. The second has as its advantage, that it is the best way to show how the East and the West combined solves the problem of the Human Condition. But it has a greater risk of misunderstanding.
RICHARD: To go into the question of control – and the controller – would be the first step into the understanding of consciousness and the ultimate liberation from the need for control. And yes, I agree with your ruminations ... it would also be quicker. I would be very interested to see how you solve the problem of the Human Condition with a meld of the discoveries of the East and the West, no matter the greater risk of misunderstanding. I say this because I remain unconvinced that this melding can be done without eliminating the ‘controller’ from consciousness.
Neither the East or the West has done this.
KONRAD: I have not forgotten you. Far from it. I am only trying to figure out how the dialogue with you can be embarked upon in such a way, that I am as clear as possible. (Not that I consider myself the one who will steer the discussion. I think that neither you nor I will know, in what direction this will bring us in the future.) But I have the feeling that the two of us will be in contact with each other for many years to come.
RICHARD: I look forward to a continuing dialogue. I am particularly interested in the ‘process’ which has been with you for seventeen years ... your description of the onset of this ‘process’ is what first prompted me to write to you, remember. Vis: ‘and then it happened. I had the attack I formerly had at the moment of falling asleep. But now I was wide awake! A tremendous pressure wave penetrated from below my spine into my skull. It was exactly at the moment whereby I understood. It was absolutely nothing! However, this insight had as its side effect this pressure wave, going through my body. And it hurt! It hurt terribly! However, it had solved my problem. After this the ‘process’ that had started never stopped. The first couple of years it remained very painful’ .
This particular experience (‘it was absolutely nothing!’ ) is of the first priority.
KONRAD: The ‘I’ is the result of a certain calculation applied on the random generation or presence of thoughts that all have the potential to control the body, and the SELF reacting to all of these thoughts with emotions. The calculation uses as data these emotions, and consists of ordering them according to their potential ability to reduce pain, or to increase pleasure: to increase well being. Hereby the time horizon is also taken into account. This calculation is a deeper layer in us, what I call the BEING. It is where UNDERSTANDING takes place. It is able, or tries to see which thought results to actions that causes the greatest well-being. When this is seen, UNDERSTOOD by the BEING, as the outcome of the calculation, it is allowed to control the body. This whole process of calculation performed by the BEING is called: to decide. The ‘I’ is then nothing else than the thought of that what the action tries to achieve. So, the picture that many people have about themselves, as somebody who DOES something, implying that the I and DOING are two separate things, is wrong. Or, to say it differently, there is no difference between that what is wanted and that what is wanting. Since wants change in time, the I is not, as you formulate it, ‘a permanent ‘I’ existing for the term of one’s natural life ... and beyond, for those that believe in such things’. Such an ‘I’ is an illusion.
RICHARD: Where you start to talk about ‘BEING’, I prick up my ears. This is because all Enlightened Masters talk about their ‘Being’ ... that they have realised their ‘True Being’ and so on. So this is an area that I would like to discuss with you, as it is germane to what I am vitally interested in. Which is: in order to usher in the ultimate condition that a human being can aspire to, one needs to dissolve not only their ego (what you call I ), but their soul (what you call SELF ) as well. You will be well aware by now that I consider enlightenment to be merely going halfway: the elimination of the ego (the psychological self) is not sufficient to bring peace-on-earth. The soul (the psychic self), must be put under the microscope, as it were, to see what part it plays in providing a continuity of ‘being’ for all eternity. This ‘being’ is that experience of ‘presence’ ... the very identity that is the bane of humankind.
Personally speaking, ‘I’ and ‘my’ world-view have become irrelevant and there is no longer a feeling of ‘being’. Everything is simply here as-it-is, no longer needing the support of any ‘presence’. It is only when one thinks and feels that ‘I’ exist that the troubles begin. To locate this entity, one has only to tune into the feeling of ‘being’. In ‘being’ there is an intuitive sense of ‘presence’, a feeling of being present. The Spiritual people tell everyone, peremptorily, that humans are all ‘One’. They endlessly praise ‘Unity’ and revere ‘Oneness’. If one has done what they advise to do, one will have come across a ‘Presence’ which goes by many names. Clearly this ‘Presence’ is a psychic projection of ‘my’ own presence. They describe this ‘Presence’ as being the ‘Timeless One’ that creates and sustains all of Existence. They maintain that by believing in this ‘Timeless One’, one will have absolute security, by which they mean Eternal Life. It is the fear of death’s oblivion that has set this entire system of belief into motion: ‘I’ dread extinction. To be extinct is, of course, not to ‘be’. ‘Being’ is the root-cause of the perceived tragedy of life. Life is seen to be tragic because it has death at the end; if it were not for death, according to the received wisdom, life would be good. In actuality, the concept of living forever, as a psychic entity, is the original cause of abject sorrow and malice ... not extinction.
There is one thing that ‘I’ can do, however, to remedy the situation. ‘I’ can disappear. Psychological self-immolation is the only sensible sacrifice that ‘I’ can make in order to reveal perfection. Life is bursting with meaning when ‘I’ am no longer present to mess things up. ‘I’ stand in the way of the purity and perfection of this universe being apparent. ‘My’ presence prohibits consummation being evident. ‘I’ prevent the very meaning to life, that ‘I’ am searching for, from coming into plain view. The main trouble is that ‘I’ wish to remain in existence to savour the meaning; ‘I’ mistakenly think that meaning is the product of the mind and the heart. Nothing could be further from the truth. The closest approximation to the actual that ‘I’ can attain via thought can only ever be visionary states produced from utopian ideals that manifest themselves as hallucinatory chimeras. The mind, held hostage by humanity’s ‘wisdom’, is a fertile breeding-ground for fanciful flights of imagination, giving rise to the fantasies and phantasms so loved and revered – and feared – by humankind. They never completely satisfy for they never last ... they have no substance, no intrinsic viability and doubt is never far away. In a valiant attempt to remove doubt, passion can be brought into the search. Passion can produce love.
When ‘I’ experience love ‘I’ feel that life has meaning after all. Some brash souls have attained a state of Love Agapé, thereby believing that they have found the ‘Ultimate Meaning’. They have disseminated their findings to all and sundry down through the ages ... with ruinous results. They have led humankind astray, propelling people into the heights of hope ... before plunging them into the depths of despair, when their prognostications turn out to be invalid. Yet they continue to dish out rays of hope to their desperate believers – the demand for hope by an ever increasing population in despair creates the marketing of ‘feel-good’ enterprises, giving rise to a lucrative market for Spiritual entrepreneurs. Their product is love ... and the feelings that love induces: self-acceptance, self-worth, self-esteem ... in short, the feeling of being needed. All these feelings serve to prop up an ailing self ... yet love, however lofty, is fickle and manipulative and ‘I’ must be ever vigilant. ‘I’ consist of a kaleidoscope of emotions and passions and therefore doubt is still not far away. This can hardly be called a satisfactory destination for the quest into finding the meaning of life.
From the vantage point of freedom from ‘I’ – which can be verified by a PCE in a peak experience – a miraculous shift is seen to have occurred. It is a mutation from the self-centred personality to a condition of self-less anonymity ... which is a blessed release from the onerous responsibility of being ‘someone’. No longer self-centred, that last little elusive bit of ‘me’, which ‘I’ could not purify, has expired, enabling me to be here. The perfection and purity that is already here, where it has always been, is now available to be fully appreciated by me as-this-body. That ‘I’, which was always perverting and spoiling every endeavour, is no longer present. ‘I’ was only an illusion, whereas I am actual. I am this body and this body being conscious is autonomous and free. I am unable to be swayed by feelings; be they love or hate, hope or despair, despondency or enthusiasm and so on. Nor do I need to be needed by others, so compassion plays no part in my life.
The dubious authority of the noble feelings of Love Agapé, Divine Compassion and Rapturous Bliss are revealed to be pathos inverted ... and a meagre surrogate for the intimacy, tranquillity, benevolence and blitheness of the beneficence that is the actual character of this wondrous universe.
KONRAD: I have read some of the material of your home-page. What I see is that there is no difference whatsoever in what we both understand. There are, however, two things I am surprised about concerning you. One thing is, that this ‘process’ in me is necessary to be able to see all these things. Therefore I am surprised that you do not feel something like this going on inside of you. Since I do not doubt that your understanding in these matters is exactly the same as that of me, I must conclude that there are more ways than the one that is happening in me to see these facts. Probably your PCE makes it possible for you. And probably you have some means to allow this PCE to happen whenever it is required.
RICHARD: To explain: it is not a matter of having the ‘means to allow this PCE to happen whenever it is required’ ... my on-going experience of being alive as this flesh and blood body is a twenty four hour a day pure consciousness experience (PCE). This condition has been operating for a number of years now and has not fluctuated one iota during this time ... it is both actual and permanent.
KONRAD: The second thing, and I think this to be a real difference between you and me, is that you see this understanding to be the last thing that is important to understand. Therefore you see this, let me call it condition, as the answer to all the problems of Man. Apparently you see it like this because you consider the enlightenment Buddha and all those other masters spoke about as no more than seeing that the ‘I’ is an illusion. Therefore they do not see, that there is a deeper problem. Namely, a SELF that also must be exposed as nothing else than a product of thought. In fact, that there is nothing ... no-thing ... that exists in our psyche that is able to escape destruction by death, because it is a part of the functioning of the body, which is what (not who) we are. (By the way: ‘which is what (not who) we are’ are your words. Very well said.) Therefore you think that you have hit upon something no eastern master has seen. A possibility of total freedom.
RICHARD: Total freedom, yes. The ‘I’, as ego, (what you call I ) they saw as a product of thought and, dissolving this ‘I’, shifted their identity from the ego to the ‘Me’ as soul (what you call SELF ). Yet this ‘I’ as ego was not a product of thought alone ... it originally arises out of feeling ... and passionate feeling, at that.
KONRAD: However, I doubt this. I think that Buddha, Rinzai, and for example the two Krishnamurtis have hit upon exactly this condition too. Maybe there are many people, even the majority who thought that to be enlightened is the same as being in a state where the illusionary nature of I had been exposed, but that they were unaware of the fact, that there exist a deeper SELF that has to be exposed too. And maybe you are right, that being dominated by the SELF is the only condition that deserves the term enlightenment, and that therefore the condition you (and I for that matter) talk about deserves another word, to distinguish it from this fraudulent form of enlightenment. But granting all this, the only thing the condition you are talking about solves, is the problem of the suffering of Man, which it indeed does. So I think that Buddha has delivered. He has pointed to a solution which can end all suffering. Therefore the east HAS succeeded in its aim. However, there is a big but. The ending of a negative is not yet a positive. This is where you and I differ.
RICHARD: Yes, it does deserve another name ... I call it actual freedom, and an actual freedom has nothing to do with enlightenment as it is not an altered state of consciousness. Regarding the masters you mention: I do not know about Mr. Rinzai as I have not studied his situation at all ... but Mr. Gotama the Sakyan? No, definitely not. It is well known that he would not take the final step out of compassion for all suffering beings – the Bodhisattva principle – thus, for Buddhists, their ultimate condition lies on the other side of physical death. They call this state: Parinirvana ... ‘complete nirvana’. Mr. Jiddu Krishnamurti was a passionate enlightened man who felt a deep sorrow for all humankind and endlessly praised compassion as the solution for suffering humanity. It is not. As a palliative for sadness and loneliness and so on it beats pity, sympathy and empathy by a mile ... but as a cure? No way. This is because compassion has its roots in sorrow and relies upon resentment to be able to act. Speaking personally, as I have no passion anywhere to be found, nor sorrow or malice, compassion plays no part in my life whatsoever. Benevolence (as in well-wishing), yes ... but none of those products of pathos. He also said, at age eighty nine, that he had had an intimation that ‘something new’ was going to come into his ‘Teachings’ ... but nothing ever did. So he knew that there was something more that lay beyond enlightenment (in Ms. Mary Lutyen’s biography)
As for Mr. Uppaluri Krishnamurti ... from what I have read his condition is the same as what I experience in that he has no psyche at all. But there the similarity ends. I first heard of him when I bought a computer and gained access to the Internet in February 1997. I located the Mr. Uppaluri Krishnamurti web page via another article and read all the information with rapidly diminishing interest. Something fundamental happened to him that I can relate to – the total annihilation of any psychological entity whatsoever – but he clearly states that he himself does not know what it was that happened, unfortunately. He makes it clear that he has nothing to offer to advance humankind’s knowledge about itself, which makes his a hapless condition. He makes no bones about considering himself as being a ‘sport of nature’, which is not about to be repeated, so therefore he concludes that no good will be obtained by talking with him.
Mr. Uppaluri Krishnamurti does not regard his state as a new way of living for any other person. He has no basic survival or reproductive objectives for himself or others. He says that as all desires have disappeared in him, any psychological and spiritual wants are without any foundation. He states that there is no message he can give or help he can offer. He says has no disciples, no teachings, and no practices. His ‘message’ is that he has no message for humankind. He cannot save humans from their basic dilemma or from their self-deception. Yet, being typically paradoxical, he says: ‘If I cannot help you, no one can’.
Of course, I am in accord with his oft-repeated statements about Spiritual Enlightenment being a waste of time, but it is one thing to speak out against something – whilst offering nothing in its place – and another thing entirely to propose a viable, liveable and delightful alternative to what one is knocking down. I did not read him saying anything about how deliciously enjoyable it is to be finally free of the Human Condition; what a pleasure it is to be alive at this moment in time; how life is an adventure in itself by the simple fact of being here; what a felicitous experience it is to be the universe’s experience of itself as a human being; to be able to fully appreciate the infinitude of this physical universe by being alive ... and so on. In short, what I read sounded existentialist and nihilistic and negative.
I asked around for any videos of him and I was able to watch three of them. I stopped watching half-way through the third one as I had had enough. He acknowledges that there are still emotions ... but that it is the body that is having them ... fear was one that I heard him talk about on the video. The writings about him talk of him getting angry at people who come to see him ... he tells them to go away in no uncertain terms. I can not relate to this at all as I experience no feelings – emotions and passions – whatsoever. Also, on one video, he says that he looks at a clock and wonders what it is; someone asks him what the time is and he answers ‘A quarter past three’ – or whatever – and then falls back into wondering what it is that he is looking at. I know perfectly well what a clock is. Apparently he has to knock his head against a wall to know that he is here; he slams kitchen doors shut for the same reason; he goes to a doctor who examines him and says that he is indeed alive ... whereas I know that I am alive and well and thoroughly enjoying myself ... and will continue to do so for the term of my natural life. It is a strange situation he is in and he seems to be very much alone in it. In a way it is all a bit of a dismal story.
So, to get back to ‘I’ as ego not being solely the product of thought. I need to back up a little and start at the other end, as it were. Please bear with me as I work through this explanation. My understanding is that ‘I’ as ego and ‘me’ as soul both arise out of the basic instinctual rudimentary self that all sentient beings are born with. Those people, who have dedicated large parts of their waking hours devoted to the particular type of physical research that painstakingly looks into these matters, have located at least four basic emotions in what is variously called the ‘primitive brain’ or the ‘lizard brain’ or the ‘reptilian brain’, which is located at the top of the brain-stem of all sentient creatures. This is regardless of whether the creature has a developed ‘bigger brain’ – like the human cerebral cortex – over the top of it or not. These basic passions are fear and aggression and nurture and desire ... there are more but scientists tend to disagree about matters scientific according to what school or discipline they are working in. After all, they are fallible, ego-ridden and soul-bound human beings trapped in the human condition like everybody else, and are seeking to find a way through all this mess that we humans are born into via the scientific method.
Experiments with electronic probes on either reptiles – not having a bigger brain – or mammals – having a bigger brain – have demonstrated repeatedly that by touching various locatable areas of this ‘reptilian brain’, these emotions can be triggered at command. Thus the hapless animal will switch from trembling fear to rabid desire in the twinkling of an eye ... merely by applying the electrode to another area. Similarly, nurturing can be abruptly replaced by aggression ... again by moving the electrode. This has been demonstrated again and again with predictable results. Thus it is a fact.
So, beginning with a fact and not a premise, we can reliably ascertain that these instincts are what we are born with. Consequently, all sentient beings have, at the very least, a rudimentary sense of ‘self’ and ‘other’ ... and I am not suggesting for a moment that any reptile or mammal has an ‘I’ or a ‘me’. I mean it in the sense that an animal displays behaviour that indicates that there is an awareness of its physical form as being separate from the form of the world about ... which a tree, for example, does not display. This has been tested with monkeys, for instance, where a mirror is placed in the cage and the monkey first looks behind the mirror to find the – apparently there – ‘other’ monkey. After a while, an understanding that is observable dawns upon the luckless creature ... and it starts pulling faces at itself and otherwise enjoying the clearly demonstrable fun that comes as a result of the monkey knowing that it is its own reflection it is looking at. In other words: a sense of self.
With the hormonal power of the feelings engendered, one feels that a ‘me’ exists ... generally felt to be somewhere in the region of the heart. This is the ‘me’ that I consistently call the soul ... for convenience. This feeling – and feelings are so powerful that they can override intelligence – makes one think that an ‘I’ exists ... generally located in the head. This ‘I’, which for convenience I consistently call the ego, comes to realise that it is the spanner in the works when it comes to the ever-pressing matter of peaceful co-existence with other members of its species. ‘I’, realising (thinking) that ‘I’ am but an illusion in the mind, realise (feel) that ‘my’ true identity is to be found in those prior existent feelings (Zen Buddhism’s ‘Original Face’) and can, by dint of great endeavour, dissolve and become ‘Me’.
This ‘Me’ – usually capitalised to indicate divinity – experiences an oceanic feeling of oneness and unity with all of creation. This gives rise to the popular notion in the East: ‘I am everything and everything is Me’. The West has something similar: ‘I am That I am’ ... but this appellation is reserved for ‘God Men’ who are conveniently long-dead. Prior to the recent influx of Eastern Philosophy, if one realised that ‘I am God’, one would have been institutionalised ... and, to some degree, rightly so. One has stepped out of an illusion, only to wind up living in a delusion. However, the trouble with people who discard the god of Christianity is that they do not realise that by turning to the Eastern spirituality they have effectively jumped out of the frying pan into the fire. Eastern spirituality is religion ... merely in a different form to what people in the West have been raised to believe in. Eastern philosophy sounds so convincing to the Western mind that is desperately looking for answers. The Christian conditioning actually sets up the situation for a thinking person to be susceptible to the esoteric doctrines of the East.
It is sobering to realise that the intelligentsia of the West are eagerly following the East down the slippery slope of striving to attain to a self-seeking Divine Immortality ... to the detriment of life on earth. ‘Centre-less Being’, for example, is simply the Eastern term for ‘God’; thus any wisdom designated ‘Unitary Awareness’ translates easily as ‘God’s Word’ ... in Western terminology. At the end of the line there is always a god of some description, lurking in disguise, wreaking its havoc with its ‘Teachings’. Have you ever been to India to see for yourself the results of what they claim are tens of thousands of years of devotional spiritual living? I have, and it is hideous.
If it were not for the appalling suffering engendered it would all be highly amusing.
KONRAD: I do not believe in a ‘being’ in the way the old masters do. As something inside of us, that is more true, and that is able to transcend the limitations of our body. Maybe it is a good thing, if I add something else. Any form of believing, that there is some deep level the sense of being can ‘creep’ into so that it can escape destruction by death is an illusion. I have read some more material from your web page. I see now, that your approach to others consists in pointing out to them, that they, as persons, are going to disappear. The biggest challenge of meditation is letting this fact ‘hit home’. Not by believing it, but by seeing that it is a fact (which it is) nobody can escape from, whatever the form of being he tries to transform himself into. If a human being succeeds in seeing this fact as the fact it is, then a drastic change occurs. The essential thing in this change is that he no longer experiences himself as a person, but the body realises that it is an existent among other existents. In other words, he has transformed himself from a who into a what. There is no experience any more of being a ‘who’, a person. This is what you call ‘The death of the ‘I’, the ‘Self’ and whatever other illusion might exist in terms of one or another form of person. This understanding is exactly what in me (as a what) is present, too.
RICHARD: Is it an understanding or an actuality? I ask this, not because I doubt your word, but because this ‘process’ is still operating in you. Going by my experience, when the process stopped thirty months after October 1992, it was all over ... and none of those basic instincts remain.
KONRAD: If the PCE is a constant actuality, the actions of the body are not performed by a ‘who’, but by some process that expresses itself directly in action, without any intermediary ‘who’ whatsoever. This process can be called ‘will’ or ‘intelligence’, and maybe it goes with several other names. But these are the two names you use. Now I assert, that this sounds great, but it is not correct. I put it to you, that the above is no more than a logical conclusion based on understanding, that if there is no ‘I’ or no ‘Self’ anymore, you must explain how actions are then still possible. You assert, that there must be, and even is, something else capable of making the body act and behave purposefully. Otherwise, the body, bereft of every acting part in its psyche, stops acting altogether, and transforms into something that is less than a plant. Since this is obviously not the case with you, you have found another explanation for the obvious fact that your body still acts and behaves purposefully, but nevertheless there is no need for an ‘I’ or a ‘Self’ that performs these actions. Instead of the ‘I’ or the ‘Self’, it is ‘will’, or ‘intelligence’ that is performing the actions, you say.
RICHARD: Yes. Actually, most of the time it is remarkably simple. It is surprisingly easy to live and function without any ‘I’ or ‘Self’ whatsoever ... in fact it is such a vast improvement upon ‘me’ doing all the daily tasks that it is a delight to just contemplate the difference. ‘I’ unnecessarily complicate this otherwise simple living with ‘my’ needs, demands, wants, shoulds, musts, beliefs, morals, values, principles, ideals, and so on. Not to mention ‘my’ sadness and empathy, ‘my’ likes and dislikes, ‘my’ loves and hates, ‘my’ fears and trusts, ‘my’ revenges and pardons, ‘my’ jealousies and faithfulness, ‘my’ blamings and forgiveness, ‘my’ loneliness and ‘my’ loves ... the list goes on and on.
This body is eminently capable of functioning of its own accord: the stomach tells the brain (wherein lies the will which, with its data-correlating ability, is nothing more grand than the nerve-organising organ of the body) when it is empty. The stomach secretes a chemical when empty which triggers a receptor in the brain that gives rise to a sensation humans ignorantly call ‘I am hungry’. Indeed, tests have been done by people who delight in doing these things, wherein the chemical was injected into volunteers who had just eaten a full meal. The chemical caused them to feel hungry despite their distended stomachs. Thus ‘I’, thinking and feeling that ‘I’ am an important part of the process, step in and say, incorrectly: ‘‘I’ am hungry’. ‘I’ am not hungry at all because how can a psychological or psychic entity need corporeal food? It is that the stomach is simply signalling its emptiness to the brain.
Likewise the bladder tells the brain when it is full, and so on. When ‘I’ say that ‘I’ want to got to the toilet’, ‘I’ am not busting for a pee ... the bladder is merely indicating its fullness. Once again, a psychological and psychic entity cannot manufacture physical urine ... it is absurd. The empty stomach instructs the legs, via the will function of the physical brain, to walk to the cupboard for food. The eyes, seeing an empty cupboard, will advise the legs, via the brain’s organising capability, to walk the body to a shop. An empty wallet will tell the legs to take the body to a bank ... and an empty bank account will demonstrate that it is time to get a job (or a pension). I am not being pedantic or facetious here ... it is actually this simple. Without an ‘I’, one is this very body, living in the actual world of people, things and events ... not an ‘I’ living in the grim and glum real world, forever cut off from the magnificence of the fascinating and magical actual world by ‘my’ unreal existence, thinking and feeling that ‘I’ have to make responsible and onerous decisions.
‘I’ can never be here in this magical fairy-tale-like actual world for ‘I’ am an interloper, an alien in psychic possession of the body. ‘I’ do not belong here. All this is impossible to imagine which is why it is essential to be confident that the actual world does exist. In order to mutate from a self-centred licentiousness to a self-less sensualism, one must have confidence in the ultimate beneficence of the universe. This confidence is born out of knowing that the grim and glum real world is pasted as a veneer over the top of actual world which underlies everyday reality. This knowing is a solid and irrefutable knowing that is derived from a PCE in the peak experience, and is an essential ingredient to ensure success. In a peak experience everything is seen, with unparalleled clarity and purity, to be already perfect ... that humans are all living in perfection ... if only one would act upon one’s seeing. In a PCE there is apperception operating wherein thinking happens of its own accord as is necessary ... it is the function of the brain to do so.
KONRAD: Now I put it to you, that you are mistaken. To demonstrate this, let me introduce a distinction: ‘will’ and ‘THE will’. (Capitals not used in some holy intention.) Now I assert, that whatever form the ‘I’ has, whether it is Ego or Soul, the I-ness of the ‘I’ is the same as THE will. I assert that the feeling of being a person stems ALWAYS from a thought of something that is wanted. Also, the ‘I’-ness of the I is the result of the fact that what is wanted is exactly the same as that what is wanting. This makes that at every moment the ‘I’ is a specific thought. A thought that is distinguishable from other thoughts because it is allowed to control the body. You might ask, in an attempt to confuse me: allowed by who? Then I answer: wrong question. It is not allowed by a ‘who’, but by a ‘what’. This ‘what’ is the body. Or, better, by the intelligence of the body. You talk about ‘will’ and I talk about ‘THE will’. Apparently what I call the process of decision you call ‘will’. This process I also call intelligence. ANY action must stem from a thought that is the result of a decision.
RICHARD: The feeling of being a person does not stem ‘always from a thought of something that is wanted’ . Thoughts cannot want ... an emotion is required for that activity. The feeling of being a person stems from the instinctual desire that all sentient creatures are born with ... it is blind nature’s – rather clumsy – way of ensuring survival of a species. Eradicate the instincts and the wanting self disappears along with them. Or the other way around: eliminate the self and the instinctual drives are extinguished as well. It does not really matter which way one looks at it for the self is the instincts and the instincts are the self. As I wrote in a previous post: ‘with the hormonal power of the feelings engendered in the reptilian brain, one feels that a ‘me’ exists ... generally felt to be somewhere in the region of the heart. This feeling – and feelings are so powerful that they can override intelligence – makes one think that an ‘I’ exists ... generally located in the head’.
This thought ‘I’ mistakenly thinks that it is the spanner in the works when it comes to the ever-pressing matter of peaceful co-existence with other members of its species. This thought ‘I’, thinking that it is but an illusion in the mind, attempts to dissolve itself and realise its true nature ... those prior existent feelings in the heart. This is to step out of an illusion right into a delusion. For nowhere in this process is the real culprit for all the ills of humankind uncovered at all. At base, ‘I’ lurk disconsolately around at the top of the brain-stem ... just busting with unfilled desires. The will cops the blame for almost everything. When a disciple ‘surrenders their ego’ to a master, they give up their will instead ... fondly imagining they have obediently surrendered their ego. No wonder masters have so much power.
No one can surrender their ego.
The Third Alternative
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