Actual Freedom – Mailing List ‘D’ Correspondence

Richard’s Correspondence On Mailing List ‘D’

with Correspondent No. 9


Continued from Mailing List ‘AF’: No. 122

Continued from General Correspondence Page 14

May 13 2009

Re: Discussion about ‘Actual freedom is highly possible

RESPONDENT: Although this forum has been mostly busy with ‘house cleaning stuff’ lately, I want to discuss, now that Richard is participating in this forum, with hopefully, his participation, a quite perplexing paragraph he wrote. Given his writings are definite and not vague or ambiguous, there are some ‘truths’ or ‘facts’ that I don’t understand where Richard got or concluded from, nor could I find any writings with the reasonings or observations that brought him to these conclusions.

I would love to grasp the meaning of this paragraph and it’s apparent (correct me if you think I’m wrong) ‘truths’ or ‘facts’, because I think doing so those might do a good job helping a human being (at least myself) to understand Richard line of thought, and the human condition, as much as reading and understanding other writings that are on the AF site.

If you say, ‘nah, this is not important, these are just small points’ then I don’t see how can this be ‘less important’ than reading the AF site at all, as the writings on the site are made of details, and these are some of the details.

I have tried to discuss this paragraphs before, here, with no real success from the discussions in understanding where exactly those ‘truths’ or ‘facts’ have been concluded from.

Here’s the paragraph:

[Richard]: ‘This is an exciting period to live in. For the first time in human history, it is possible for anyone who applies themselves with sufficient application and diligence – guided by pure intent – to become virtually free, virtually pure, virtually perfect.

It is then highly possible that this person can actualise the ultimate as being the immediate.’ Richard, Selected Writings, Instincts

1: Why exactly ‘For the first time in human history, it is possible for anyone who applies themselves with sufficient application and diligence – guided by pure intent – to become virtually free, virtually pure, virtually perfect.’? Why definitely ‘For the first time in human history’? It must mean that once it was impossible, not it is possible. Why? Where does this conclusion come from?

2: Why and based on what fact or reasoning is this sentence written?: ‘It is then highly possible that this person can actualise the ultimate as being the immediate.’ Why it is possible for anyone who applies vs. it is then highly possible? It can only leave a room to some fate or genetic impotence as to what decides if one achieves AF or not. Because, if not it must be ‘possible to anyone’ and not just ‘highly possible’. Any thoughts?

RICHARD: G’day No. 9, A quick note as I am about to be away from my computer all day.

The key-word is ‘history’.

I scoured the books, to no avail, for many, many years looking for information about what is nowadays known as an actual freedom from the human condition.

Thus it is information – or knowledge, if you will – which makes it highly possible, rather than just possible, not genetics (or whatever).

More later if it is still not clear.

Regards, Richard.

May 21 2009

Re: Discussion about ‘Actual freedom is ‘highly possible’’

CO-RESPONDENT: Could it be that in the instance where it is written that it (AF) is highly possible. Possible is used more or less in the sense of being probable?

RESPONDENT No. 4: ‘highly possible’ = ‘approaching probable’, sounds reasonable to me.

But I think what No. 9 mainly wants to know is: isn’t choice/ intent enough to make AF inevitable/certain (as it is for VF)? ... i.e. is there another ingredient besides will/ choice/ intent that makes AF only ‘highly probable’ rather than certainly available to anyone who truly wants it? Message 5677 seems to spell this out quite clearly as does Msg. 5666 where he asks:

‘Put it more simply, I asked why AF is just a possibility (although a high one) while VF is a matter of personal choice.’

RESPONDENT: I find it peculiar that this hasn’t been cleared out by the person who wrote the paragraph.

RICHARD: As it was ‘cleared out’ by the person who wrote the paragraph (back on Wednesday the 13th of May 2009 at 6:57 am) what is actually ‘peculiar’ is that the person who wrote the above sentence would post an email stating how they found it ‘peculiar that this hasn’t been cleared out by the person who wrote the paragraph’.

Moreover, as this is not the first instance such a (faux) allegation of this nature has been made (as evidenced in the ‘alien invasion’ topic for instance) it would appear there may very well be a persistent and/ or habitual underlying attitude – regarding which it might indeed be beneficial to locate (feel out), identify (ascribe name), and thus expose to the bright light of awareness – which occasions such (faux) allegations.

Regards, Richard.

June 08 2009

Re: Discussion about ‘Actual freedom is highly possible

RESPONDENT: [quote] ‘For the first time in human history, it is possible for anyone who applies themselves with sufficient application and diligence – guided by pure intent – to become virtually free, virtually pure, virtually perfect. It is then highly possible that this person can actualise the ultimate as being the immediate.’ [endquote]

When was asking of why is it highly possible/ highly likely, I was meaning to this: how this is a matter of possibility? Isn’t this a matter of personal choice?

Also you choose the words – it’s possible to achieve VF when so and so, meaning it is a matter of personal choice, but when talking about AF you say it is only highly possible.

How can the words ‘highly’ + ‘possible’ be used if it is a matter of personal choice?

CO-RESPONDENT: No. 9, I will attempt to answer this. I’m quite sure Richard will answer it separately too, and comment on what I’ve written (below). VF is a matter of personal choice – one only needs to look at Irene’s correspondence with Richard to realize that. AF isn’t a matter of personal choice (No person in VF can arrive there by thinking/ feeling himself/ herself to be actually free) but VF is an essential precursor (unless one wants to go through the heart which is another matter altogether).

RESPONDENT: No. 8, what about these postings from the AF site then?:

1. ‘Step out of the ‘real’ world into the actual world ... ... and leave your ‘self’ behind.’

2. In some Richard’s correspondence (can’t find the link right now) he said that if he back then knew what he knows now, becoming actually free would take him about 6-8 seconds.

3. In some other Richard’s correspondence (can’t find the link right now) he mentioned that it’s not he who got actually free, but he knowingly took a step to from where he would had to be extinct.

(something along those lines). Aren’t those obviously impose that it’s a decision of self to become actually free? Then how actual freedom can be ‘highly possible’?

RICHARD: G’day No. 8, !Bingo!

You’ve got it in one ... thank you.

(All the rest is either red-herrings or straw-man arguments). [...]

RESPONDENT: Richard, can you react on my current post?

RICHARD: G’day No. 9, I will first refer you to this link:.

And then to this one: http://www.wordbyletter.com/wiki/quodlibetarian

Regards, Richard.


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