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Richard’s Correspondence On The Actual Freedom Mailing List with Correspondent No. 53
RICHARD: (...) My progenitors were farmers ... pioneer settlers carving a livelihood by hand out of virgin forest (I personally used axes and hand saws to help cut down the trees to make pasture land). (...) RESPONDENT: You personally used axes and hand saws ... RICHARD: Yes, this flesh and blood body did indeed use axes and hand saws to help cut down the trees to make pasture land. RESPONDENT: ... but you did not personally make a method ... RICHARD: Indeed not ... it was, of course, the identity inhabiting this flesh and blood body at the time (1981) who devised what has nowadays become known as the actualism method. RESPONDENT: ... [but you did not personally] practice method for 13 years ... RICHARD: Aye, this flesh and blood body most definitely did not put the actualism method into practice in the eleven years between 1981 and 1992 ... it was, of course, the identity who successfully did that. RESPONDENT: ... and [but you did not personally] market method for the next 13 years. RICHARD: Au contraire ... it being the only method so far to successfully deliver the goods (for as far as has been ascertainable) this flesh and blood body has indeed been promulgating and promoting the actualism method over the last seven years (since 1997) or so.
RICHARD: (...) My progenitors were farmers ... pioneer settlers carving a livelihood by hand out of virgin forest (I personally used axes and hand saws to help cut down the trees to make pasture land). (...) RESPONDENT: You personally used axes and hand saws ... RICHARD: Yes, this flesh and blood body did indeed use axes and hand saws to help cut down the trees to make pasture land. RESPONDENT: ... but you did not personally make a method ... RICHARD: Indeed not ... it was, of course, the identity inhabiting this flesh and blood body at the time (1981) who devised what has nowadays become known as the actualism method. RESPONDENT: ... [but you did not personally] practice method for 13 years ... RICHARD: Aye, this flesh and blood body most definitely did not put the actualism method into practice in the eleven years between 1981 and 1992 ... it was, of course, the identity who successfully did that. RESPONDENT: So it was the f&bb that used axes, not the identity ... RICHARD: Yes (just as no identity in any flesh and blood body uses axes). RESPONDENT: ... and it was the identity that dreamed up its avenue of escape ... RICHARD: Aye, the blessed RESPONDENT: ... [and it was the identity that dreamed up] its modus operandi, aka the actualism method, not the f&bb. RICHARD: Indeed not ... this flesh and blood body has been having a ball all along. RESPONDENT: Are you saying the identity did not swing axes? RICHARD: Yes (just as the psychological/psychic entity did not eat, drink, urinate, defecate, and so
on). The following link will flesh this out somewhat: RESPONDENT: It all sounds a bit like the latest new age mysticism ... RICHARD: There is nothing mystical – let alone of the New (Dark) Age variety – about a psychological/ psychic entity not swinging an axe and/or devising a method to achieve the desired oblivion (which extinction would enable the already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7). RICHARD: Presuming that you mean ‘doublethink’ RESPONDENT: ... [ It all sounds a bit like] have your cake and eat it too, etc.. RICHARD: Obviously your etcetera cannot be commented on but in regards to your enjoy-both-alternatives
reference RESPONDENT: Who is answering these emails, the f&bb or some identity? RICHARD: It is not a question of ‘who’ but of ‘what’ ... what is answering these e-mails is this (apperceptively aware) flesh and blood body. * RESPONDENT: ... and [you did not personally] market method for the next 13 years. RICHARD: Au contraire ... it being the only method so far to successfully deliver the goods (for as far as has been ascertainable) this flesh and blood body has indeed been promulgating and promoting the actualism method over the last seven years (since 1997) or so. RESPONDENT: So it follows then that your method was the cause of an acausal state. RICHARD: The condition of uncaused happiness (freedom from sorrowfulness) and harmlessness (freedom from maliciousness) – otherwise referred to as peace-on-earth, in this lifetime, as this flesh and blood body – already always exists and thus has no cause: what the actualism method does is occasion the extinction of that which is standing in the way of such inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable, perfection being apparent ... to wit: the identity (a psychological/psychic entity) within the flesh and blood body. There is, of course, no such psychological/psychic entity in actuality ... ‘twas all an illusion/delusion.
RICHARD: (...) My progenitors were farmers ... pioneer settlers carving a livelihood by hand out of virgin forest (I personally used axes and hand saws to help cut down the trees to make pasture land). (...) RESPONDENT: So it was the f&bb that used axes, not the identity ... RICHARD: Yes (just as no identity in any flesh and blood body uses axes). RESPONDENT: Then the f&bb is responsible for murders using axes and not the identity ... RICHARD: No, it is the identity who, being emotional/passional in and of its very make-up, is responsible for axe-murders. RESPONDENT: ... which would seem to be contrary to what you are in general saying that it is the identity who is responsible for war, rape, murder, general mayhem RICHARD: Not at all ... an identity, a psychological/ psychic entity, impels/compels a flesh and blood body to act out all manner of its malicious and sorrowful/loving and compassionate impulses, urges, drives, cravings, yearnings, and so forth. * RICHARD: (...) the blessed RESPONDENT: According to your chosen definition of oblivion below ... RICHARD: That Oxford Dictionary definition of the word blessed – ‘enjoying supreme felicity; fortunate; happily endowed with; pleasurable; bringing happiness; blissful’ – is not this flesh and blood body’s chosen definition of oblivion .. it is a definition chosen to describe the nature of the release into oblivion (which felicitous let-go is indeed a blessed release). RESPONDENT: ... it [the Oxford Dictionary definition of the word blessed] does say ‘blissful’, ‘bringing happiness’ and haven’t you said that bliss and happiness is nowhere to be found in what you refer to as actuality? RICHARD: This flesh and blood body has indeed reported that the affective feelings of bliss and happiness – including experiencing same as (affective) states of being – are nowhere to be found here in this actual world, the world of the senses, where all is pure, pristine and perfect. RESPONDENT: Is there awareness/perception in what you are calling oblivion? RICHARD: None whatsoever (just as in being anesthetised, knocked unconscious, falling into a faint, during deep sleep, or in any other way being rendered comatose). RESPONDENT: Are you in this state of oblivion? RICHARD: It was the identity inhabiting this flesh and blood body all those years ago that went felicitously into oblivion (in 1992) and not this flesh and blood body ... that blessed let-go into oblivion was something only an identity, a psychological/psychic entity, could desire. RESPONDENT: Because recently you have said that it is the survivors who experience grief and suffering and not the tsunami victims who are now in oblivion ... RICHARD: You can only be referring to this:
RESPONDENT: ... and from this one could infer/deduce that you are saying that there is a state of oblivion after the death of the f&bb. RICHARD: There is no way the words [quote] ‘death is oblivion’ [endquote] can be inferred as conveying there is such an after-death state – death *is* oblivion – just as it cannot be deduced from those words that there is any after-death state ... death is the end, finish. * RESPONDENT: Are you saying the identity did not swing axes? RICHARD: Yes (just as the psychological/ psychic entity did not eat, drink, urinate, defecate, and so on). The following link will flesh this out somewhat: (snip link). RESPONDENT: But don’t you think that the cause of overeating (over-anything) is the identity and not the f&bb? RICHARD: No, this flesh and blood body *knows*, from direct experience, that it is a psychological/ psychic entity which impels/ compels a body to act out all manner of its malicious and sorrowful/loving and compassionate impulses, urges, drives, cravings, yearnings, and so forth. RESPONDENT: So it follows that while it is the f&bb that is doing the physical activity of eating (anything), it is the identity that is the cause of the overeating (over-anything). RICHARD: Exactly. * RESPONDENT: Who is answering these emails, the f&bb or some identity? RICHARD: It is not a question of ‘who’ but of ‘what’ ... what is answering these e-mails is this (apperceptively aware) flesh and blood body. RESPONDENT: But Richard clearly has established an identity for himself as the first, the only, the method promoter, etc. ... RICHARD: Here is an example of that sentence, when written in accord with what was actually conveyed (further above), might look like:
Or, to put that another way, it might look like this:
RESPONDENT: ... isn’t it that identity that resides in the f&bb ... RICHARD: There is no psychological/psychic entity residing in this flesh and blood body ... or, to put that another way, there is no emotional/ passional identity residing in this flesh and blood body. RESPONDENT: ... and whose life/ existence/ awareness/ perception is dependent on the f&bb that is answering these emails and not the f&bb which is just the stuff of the physical universe? RICHARD: It is most definitely this (apperceptively aware) flesh and blood body – which is indeed the very stuff of this infinite, eternal, and perpetual, universe – that is answering these e-mails ... no emotional/ passional identity-psychological/ psychic entity could persuade a body to respond in such a congruent way, and with such consistent detail, despite whatever it is that is presented and/or in whatever manner it is presented. * RICHARD: (...) what the actualism method does is occasion the extinction of that which is standing in the way of such inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable, perfection being apparent ... to wit: the identity (a psychological/psychic entity) within the flesh and blood body. RESPONDENT: Assuming you are what you claim, until another, using your method, occasions the extinction of that which is standing in the way of such inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable, perfection being apparent, then it stands that each and every person will indeed have to find their own way/ method/ whatever. RICHARD: What actually stands is that, until another identity does find their own way/method/whatever to enable the already existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7, the method the identity inhabiting this body all those years devised is the only way so far to successfully deliver the goods ... which also means this flesh and blood body cannot, quite obviously, endorse any way/ method/ whatever which is yet to be successful. RESPONDENT: And I, quite frankly, would be quite surprised if your method does this for another F&BB, ever. RICHARD: It is, of course, entirely up to each and every identity to decide what to do with the information that a proven method now exists ... it is their life they are living, when all is said and done, and only they get to reap the rewards or pay the consequences for whatever action they may or may not do. RESPONDENT: While anything is possible, it is my opinion, that borrowing another’s method, can only alter or add to an identity and not extinguish it. RICHARD: As speculation derived from armchair philosophising goes nowhere, and fast, this flesh and blood body will pass without further comment. * RICHARD: There is, of course, no such psychological/ psychic entity [standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent] in actuality ... ‘twas all an illusion/ delusion. RESPONDENT: I’ll agree with that ... RICHARD: Just so there is no misunderstanding: an identity, a psychological/ psychic entity, has just agreed with a flesh and blood body (provisionally assumed to be) sans any such emotional/passional ‘being’ that it is all an illusion/ delusion they (a) have any existence in actuality ... and (b) are, therefore, standing in the way of such inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable, perfection as actuality indisputably is being apparent 24/7. RESPONDENT: ... [I’ll agree with that] and that is why I think your method does not make sense. It is dependent on an illusion thinking it is not an illusion. RICHARD: Whereas what the actualism method is really dependent upon is each and every emotional/passional identity getting off their backside – discarding all armchair philosophising for being the delaying tactic it indubitably is in doing so – and giving their undivided attention to how they are experiencing each and every moment of their emotional/ passional life. Incidentally, any identity who does not do that (give their undivided attention to how they are experiencing each and every moment of being alive) cannot properly assert that the actualism method has not worked/is not working/ never will work. RESPONDENT: The whole process [of an illusion thinking it is not an illusion] is a fabricated game. RICHARD: Just so there is no misunderstanding: is an illusory/ delusory identity, whilst agreeing it is all an illusion/ delusion that they have any existence in actuality and are, therefore, standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent 24/7, now asserting that such an agreement is a fabricated game?
RICHARD: (...) the blessed release into oblivion is something only an identity, a psychological/ psychic entity, would desire. RESPONDENT: According to your chosen definition of oblivion below ... RICHARD: That Oxford Dictionary definition of the word blessed – ‘enjoying supreme felicity; fortunate; happily endowed with; pleasurable; bringing happiness; blissful’ – is not this flesh and blood body’s chosen definition of oblivion ... it is a definition chosen to describe the nature of the release into oblivion (which felicitous let-go is indeed a blessed release). RESPONDENT: I fail to see how oblivion brings happiness, bliss, if it is ‘the end’. RICHARD: That would be because it is not oblivion which is being referred to ... it is the release, the let-go, which is. * RESPONDENT: Is there awareness/ perception in what you are calling oblivion? RICHARD: None whatsoever (just as in being anesthetised, knocked unconscious, falling into a faint, during deep sleep, or in any other way being rendered comatose). RESPONDENT: But you said: – Richard: ‘There is nothing mystical – let alone of the New (Dark) Age variety – about a psychological/psychic entity not swinging an axe and/or devising a method to achieve the desired oblivion (which extinction would enable the already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7)’. You say there is nothing after oblivion (‘... being rendered comatose’). Then you say there IS something after ‘oblivion’, the ‘already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7’). RICHARD: There is no way the word extinction can be inferred as even remotely indicating there is anything ‘after’ oblivion for an identity, a psychological/ psychic entity, to perceive. * RICHARD: There is no way the words [quote] ‘death is oblivion’ [endquote] can be inferred as conveying there is such an after-death state – death *is* oblivion – just as it cannot be deduced from those words that there is any after-death state ... death is the end, finish. RESPONDENT: But you say after the identity ‘went felicitously into oblivion’, there is ‘the already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7’ ... and being apparent implies perception and in no way could perception of any kind be considered oblivion. RICHARD: It was the identity, a psychological/psychic entity, inhabiting this flesh and blood body all those years ago that went felicitously into oblivion (in 1992) and not this flesh and blood body ... that blessed let-go into oblivion was something only an identity could desire. * RESPONDENT: (...) it is my opinion, that borrowing another’s method, can only alter or add to an identity and not extinguish it. RICHARD: As speculation derived from armchair philosophising goes nowhere, and fast, this flesh and blood body will pass without further comment. RESPONDENT: Why do you call it speculation ... RICHARD: Just for starters: because you said [quote] ‘it is my opinion’ [endquote] in the sentence being responded to (now a little further above) ... plus you said [quote] ‘I think’ [endquote] in the sentence immediately after (now a lot further below). But mainly because of what you are opining/thinking ... perhaps if it were put this way it will become clear:
There is no need to send a reply – they are rhetorical questions – as what has nowadays become known as the actualism method is the only method (for as far as has been ascertainable) so far to have successfully delivered the goods ... other methods have only extinguished half of the psychological/psychic entity (and the superficial half at that) and do indeed alter the identity – as is evidenced by the name ‘altered state of consciousness’ (ASC) if nothing else – or add to it and most certainly do not extinguish it. RESPONDENT: ... [Why do you call it speculation] when so far, up until this very moment, it is fact that the method you are bequeathing to your fellow human has yet to occasion the extinction of that which is standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent ... to wit: the identity (a psychological/ psychic entity) within the flesh and blood body? RICHARD: This is what is speculation:
As is this which preceded it:
It being so implausible as to be risible, that there could possibly be 6,000,000+ unique and thus distinctly different methods of enabling the already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7, such speculation, derived from armchair philosophising, could not be further commented on. * RICHARD: There is, of course, no such psychological/ psychic entity [standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent] in actuality ... ‘twas all an illusion/ delusion. RESPONDENT: I’ll agree with that ... RICHARD: Just so there is no misunderstanding: an identity, a psychological/psychic entity, has just agreed with a flesh and blood body (provisionally assumed to be) sans any such emotional/passional ‘being’ that it is all an illusion/delusion they (a) have any existence in actuality ... and (b) are, therefore, standing in the way of such inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable, perfection as actuality indisputably is being apparent 24/7. RESPONDENT: Just so there is no misunderstanding; it is clear what you think ... RICHARD: That report/explanation is not what this flesh and blood body thinks: it is known, via direct experience, that no such psychological/ psychic entity is standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent in actuality ... that it *was* all an illusion/ delusion. RESPONDENT: ... and [just so there is no misunderstanding] it is clear what I think. RICHARD: Aye, you think that there is no such psychological/ psychic entity standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent in actuality ... that it *is* all an illusion/ delusion. RESPONDENT: You may describe me as you wish ... RICHARD: Hmm ... at this point you might be best described as not comprehending tenses. RESPONDENT: ... as will I, you. RICHARD: Such as, presumably, the following (written a scant 15 hours later):
That doctored-quote comment of yours entirely misses the point of the ‘just so there is no misunderstanding’ clarification ... it was the ‘fabricated game’ agreement which was being elucidated. Viz.:
* RESPONDENT: ... [I’ll agree with that] and that is why I think your method does not make sense. It is dependent on an illusion thinking it is not an illusion. RICHARD: Whereas what the actualism method is really dependent upon is each and every emotional/ passional identity getting off their backside – discarding all armchair philosophising for being the delaying tactic it indubitably is in doing so – and giving their undivided attention to how they are experiencing each and every moment of their emotional/passional life. RESPONDENT: And up until now, the actualism method has not worked for more than the provisionally assumed to be, one human. RICHARD: As that is one more than any other method has done, for as far as is ascertainable, it is way, way ahead of all the others ... so way ahead, in fact, as to be in another league. RESPONDENT: And until it does, it can only be considered another delaying tactic ... RICHARD: As speculation derived from armchair philosophising goes nowhere, and fast, this flesh and blood body will pass without further comment. RESPONDENT: ... and perhaps even a sport of nature that worked but once for one person. RICHARD: As the term ‘a sport of nature’ is synonymous with ‘a freak of nature’ the following is worth quoting (as you would be on a hiding to nowhere to pursue that theme with this flesh and blood body):
RESPONDENT: And up until now, that is fact, not speculation. RICHARD: This is what is speculative:
And this:
Just as, as already pointed out, this was:
As was this:
* RICHARD: Incidentally, any identity who does not do that (give their undivided attention to how they are experiencing each and every moment of being alive) cannot properly assert that the actualism method has not worked/is not working/never will work. RESPONDENT: And how is an identity supposed to give undivided attention to how it is experiencing each and every moment of being alive? RICHARD: How the identity inhabiting this flesh and blood body all those years ago successfully gave ‘his’ undivided attention to how ‘he’ was experiencing each and every moment of being alive was by dedication ... specifically through devotion to the only thing ‘he’ had to do to enable the already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7. The key to unlocking such dedication/devotion was sincerity ... pure and simple. RESPONDENT: Should they frame this experience in words? RICHARD: More often than not the identity inhabiting this flesh and blood body all those years ago found that the experiencing spoke for itself. RESPONDENT: Or is it a wordless divination of experience? RICHARD: The identity inhabiting this flesh and blood body all those years ago found that undivided attention to how ‘he’ was experiencing each and every moment of being alive ensured it be self-evident as to what was standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent 24/7. RESPONDENT: Your suggestion makes no sense at all. RICHARD: To an identity, a psychological/ psychic entity, who quite possibly would not recognise sincerity if it got into bed with them ... probably not; to those who are sincere ... it makes all the sense in the world. * RESPONDENT: The whole process [of an illusion thinking it is not an illusion] is a fabricated game. RICHARD: Just so there is no misunderstanding: is an illusory/ delusory identity, whilst agreeing it is all an illusion/delusion that they have any existence in actuality and are, therefore, standing in the way of such inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable, perfection being apparent 24/7, now asserting that such an agreement is a fabricated game? RESPONDENT: Just so there is no misunderstanding, if there is ‘such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent 24/7’, then there is nothing we can do to conceive/ imagine, comprehend/ believe that there is such a thing ... RICHARD: Indeed not ... which is why any agreement it is all an illusion/ delusion that you have any existence in actuality and are, therefore, standing in the way of such inconceivable/ unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/ unbelievable, perfection being apparent 24/7 is but a fabricated-game agreement, non? RESPONDENT: ... so why are you telling us there is something we should be getting off our backsides for, if it is indeed inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable? RICHARD: Because of the very fact that it is inconceivable/unimaginable, and thus incomprehensible/unbelievable, of course, as staying on one’s backside (aka armchair philosophising) leads to nowhere ... and fast.
RICHARD: (...) My progenitors were farmers ... pioneer settlers carving a livelihood by hand out of virgin forest (I personally used axes and hand saws to help cut down the trees to make pasture land). RESPONDENT: You personally used axes and hand saws ... RICHARD: Yes, this flesh and blood body did indeed use axes and hand saws to help cut down the trees to make pasture land. RESPONDENT: ... but you did not personally make a method ... RICHARD: Indeed not ... it was, of course, the identity inhabiting this flesh and blood body at the time (1981) who devised what has nowadays become known as the actualism method. RESPONDENT: ... [but you did not personally] practice method for 13 years ... RICHARD: Aye, this flesh and blood body most definitely did not put the actualism method into practice in the eleven years between 1981 and 1992 ... it was, of course, the identity who successfully did that. RESPONDENT: So it was the f&bb that used axes, not the identity ... RICHARD: Yes (just as no identity in any flesh and blood body uses axes). RESPONDENT: ... and it was the identity that dreamed up its avenue of escape. RICHARD: Aye, the blessed release into oblivion is something only an identity, a psychological/ psychic entity, would desire. RESPONDENT: According to your chosen definition of oblivion below ... RICHARD: That Oxford Dictionary definition of the word blessed – ‘enjoying supreme felicity; fortunate; happily endowed with; pleasurable; bringing happiness; blissful’ – is not this flesh and blood body’s chosen definition of oblivion .. it is a definition chosen to describe the nature of the release into oblivion (which felicitous let-go is indeed a blessed release). RESPONDENT: ... it [the Oxford Dictionary definition of the word blessed] does say ‘blissful’, ‘bringing happiness’ and haven’t you said that bliss and happiness is nowhere to be found in what you refer to as actuality? RICHARD: This flesh and blood body has indeed reported that the affective feelings of bliss and happiness – including experiencing same as (affective) states of being – are nowhere to be found here in this actual world, the world of the senses, where all is pure, pristine and perfect. RESPONDENT: Is there awareness/perception in what you are calling oblivion? RICHARD: None whatsoever (just as in being anaesthetised, knocked unconscious, falling into a faint, during deep sleep, or in any other way being rendered comatose). RESPONDENT: But you said: – Richard: ‘There is nothing mystical – let alone of the New (Dark) Age variety – about a psychological/ psychic entity not swinging an axe and/or devising a method to achieve the desired oblivion (which extinction would enable the already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7)’. You say there is nothing after oblivion (‘... being rendered comatose’). Then you say there IS something after ‘oblivion’, the ‘already always existing peace-on-earth into being apparent 24/7’). RICHARD: There is no way the word extinction can be inferred as even remotely indicating there is anything ‘after’ oblivion for an identity, a psychological/ psychic entity, to perceive. RESPONDENT: You promise ... RICHARD: This flesh and blood body made no ‘promise’ anywhere at all in the above (or elsewhere for that matter) ... and, as the pure consciousness experience (PCE) provides a practical demonstration of life sans identity in toto, no such pledge is even needed (let alone made). RESPONDENT: ... [You promise] life/heaven/magical fairy tale after death/oblivion (of the identity) ... RICHARD: What this flesh and blood body does do is offer an unambiguous report of the direct experiencing a PCE so readily demonstrates, clear descriptions of life here in this actual world 24/7 as a confirmation of what the PCE can only provide a temporary experience of, lucid explanations of how and why what the PCE so easily shows can be implemented, and clarifications of misunderstandings due to the dearth of information regarding PCE’s ... plus a do-it-yourself method, of activating what the PCE so effortlessly evidences, which has actually delivered the goods. RESPONDENT: ... promises of the sort are a dime a dozen. RICHARD: It is ‘promises’ of an after-death ‘Peace That Passeth All Understanding’ (or words to that effect) that are a dime a dozen ... not the certainty a PCE offers. RESPONDENT: Different words, same thing. RICHARD: That, as well you must know after 15 months since first subscribing, and 719 e-mails later,
is male bovine faecal matter ... a large steaming pile of it, in fact, and positively glistening with contumacity * RESPONDENT: ... [the actualism method can be considered] perhaps even a sport of nature that worked but once for one person. RICHARD: As the term ‘a sport of nature’ is synonymous with ‘a freak of nature’ the following is worth quoting (as you would be on a hiding to nowhere to pursue that theme with this flesh and blood body):
RESPONDENT: And this little excerpt illustrates that I am on a hiding to nowhere because he uses the same term ‘freak of nature’? RICHARD: No ... it is because of this:
And this:
And this:
Whereas what happened for this flesh and blood body happened *because of everything the identity did* and, as a cause and effect relationship *can and has been produced*, there is every reason why more identities *can indeed reproduce this* that happened for this flesh and blood body. RESPONDENT: You are blowing a smoke screen to deflect from the fact that your assembly line has stopped at one and is broken. RICHARD: No, what this flesh and blood body is doing is showing what that ‘little excerpt’ does illustrate ... to wit: it is it is Mr. Uppaluri Krishnamurti who is [quote] ‘the ONE, the ONLY, the ONLY ONE, the FIRST and LAST’ [endquote] and [quote] ‘Mr First, Last and the ONLY’ [endquote] and [quote] ‘the ONE , the ONLY, the ONLY ONE, the FIRST, the LAST’ [endquote] and [quote] ‘the one and only, and only one and the first and last one’ [endquote] and [quote] ‘the first and last’ [endquote] and [quote] ‘the first, the only and the last’ [endquote] and [quote] ‘THE FIRST, LAST, AND EVERY HUMAN IN BETWEEN, FREE’ [endquote] and not this flesh and blood body. Viz.:
In short: you are confusing this flesh and blood body with the man you like RESPONDENT: You have said that of all the peoples on this planet, UG comes the closest to what you report. RICHARD: Aye, his state of being, Sahaja Samadhi RESPONDENT: This would mean closer than (...) Peter & Vineeto ... RICHARD: No it does not mean that (neither Peter nor Vineeto are aiming to become actually free from the human condition by following another’s footsteps). RESPONDENT: If this is so ... (snip). RICHARD: As ‘this’ is not so there is nothing to respond to. RESPONDENT: And if you are what you claim at every opportunity to be, that would leave you a lonesome freak. RICHARD: Again, it is not this flesh and blood body that makes those claims ... it is Mr. Uppaluri Krishnamurti, a ‘lonesome freak’ if there ever was, who does.
RESPONDENT: I will just say up front that it is just amazing how you have framed, edited, presented, re-presented, mis-re-presented this current post. RICHARD: All this flesh and blood body did was reinsert the (gradually) snipped sequence which had preceded your ‘you promise’ allegation ... and not one bit of which reinsertion is at all a cause for amazement as it is exactly in the sequence in which that section of the exchange occurred (with nothing missing and nothing added). RESPONDENT: You have avoided, deleted, ignored many points and counterpoints I had made in our previous exchange ... RICHARD: This flesh and blood body has not responded, is not responding, and never will respond, to
each and every piece of your drivel * RESPONDENT: (...) it is my opinion, that borrowing another’s method, can only alter or add to an identity and not extinguish it. RICHARD: As speculation derived from armchair philosophising goes nowhere, and fast, this flesh and blood body will pass without further comment. RESPONDENT: Why do you call it speculation ... RICHARD: Just for starters: because you said [quote] ‘it is my opinion’ [endquote] in the sentence being responded to (now a little further above) ... plus you said [quote] ‘I think’ [endquote] in the sentence immediately after (now a lot further below). But mainly because of what you are opining/thinking ... perhaps if it were put this way it will become clear: 1. What methods, which have resulted in the extinction of identity in toto (both the psychological and the psychic entity), have you personally borrowed and put into practice so as to provide a first-hand report that they [quote] ‘can *only* alter or add to an identity and *not* extinguish it’ [emphasises added]? RESPONDENT: I’ve had my own method and that is my report. RICHARD: This is what the question you responded to looks like when spelled-out consecutively:
Thus there is no way your response can qualify as being either a point or a counterpoint ... it is indeed a waste of both the time and the bandwidth taken to type it out and send. As is, for that matter, your ‘up front’ preface at the top of this page.
RICHARD: (...) snip snip snip RESPONDENT: You promise ... RICHARD: This flesh and blood body made no ‘promise’ anywhere at all in the above (or elsewhere for that matter) ... and, as the pure consciousness experience (PCE) provides a practical demonstration of life sans identity in toto, no such pledge is even needed (let alone made). RESPONDENT: What do you call these little statements taken directly from your website: [quote] ‘The method of becoming free from the Human Condition is devastatingly simple but requires a few initial ingredients for success to be guaranteed’ [endquote] and: [quote] ‘The method does work – it is possible to be free of the Human Condition of malice and sorrow – and within a remarkably short time’ [endquote]. RICHARD: This flesh and blood body does not have a website ... those (unreferenced) quotes are taken directly from The Actual Freedom Trust web site and are written by Peter. Meanwhile, back to the topic at hand, this flesh and blood body made no ‘promise’ anywhere at all in the above (now snipped again) or elsewhere for that matter and, as the pure consciousness experience (PCE) provides a practical demonstration of life sans identity in toto, no such pledge is even needed (let alone made) ... as the following makes abundantly clear:
And:
* RESPONDENT: ... [You promise] life/ heaven/ magical fairy tale after death/oblivion (of the identity) ... RICHARD: What this flesh and blood body does do is offer an unambiguous report of the direct experiencing a PCE so readily demonstrates, clear descriptions of life here in this actual world 24/7 as a confirmation of what the PCE can only provide a temporary experience of, lucid explanations of how and why what the PCE so easily shows can be implemented, and clarifications of misunderstandings due to the dearth of information regarding PCE’s ... plus a do-it-yourself method, of activating what the PCE so effortlessly evidences, which has actually delivered the goods. RESPONDENT: ... promises of the sort are a dime a dozen. RICHARD: It is ‘promises’ of an after-death ‘Peace That Passeth All Understanding’ (or words to that effect) that are a dime a dozen ... not the certainty a PCE offers. RESPONDENT: Keep your followers on that everlasting treadmill looking ahead for their life-saving PCE that some day will solve all their problems. RICHARD: As this flesh and blood body does not have any ‘followers’ (actualism is neither religious/spiritual nor mystical/metaphysical) your unsolicited directive cannot be responded to as-is. RESPONDENT: You are if nothing else, a giver of hope. RICHARD: Not so ... if nothing else (to use your phraseology) the actualism method is a practical tool which enables a sincere practitioner to be as happy and as harmless as is humanly possible, virtually each moment again, for the remainder of their life and, as this is way beyond normal human expectations, such a virtual freedom is not to be sneezed at. Indeed, with a virtual freedom spread exponentially (as does a chain-letter for instance) it would revolutionise the way world affairs are conducted ... the ‘trickle-down’ effect from all The Messiahs and/or the Masters, the Gurus and/or the God-Men, the Sages and/or the Seers, the Avatars and/or the Saviours and the Shamans and/or the Priests – that is, all the morals/ ethics and principle/values, and so on – would be superseded, having been rendered null and void, by the ‘flow-on’ effect of the already always existing peace-on-earth having being enabled by one human being. RESPONDENT: Join the age old club. RICHARD: There is nothing either age-old or clubbish about what this flesh and blood body has to report/describe/explain. RESPONDENT: They all have methods, followers, testimonials, what you should see along the way ... RICHARD: And ‘along the way’ to ... what? RESPONDENT: ... the same thing you offer ... RICHARD: Hmm ... still being contumacious * RESPONDENT: Different words, same thing. RICHARD: That, as well you must know after 15 months since first subscribing, and 719 e-mails later,
is male bovine faecal matter ... a large steaming pile of it, in fact, and positively glistening with contumacity. RESPONDENT: (...) what is really a large steaming pile of it, in fact, and positively glistening with contumacity, are your descriptions of the actual world ... RICHARD: And you would know that as a fact ... how? RESPONDENT: ... [your descriptions of the actual world] which are nothing more than feelings of one human being ... RICHARD: You are aware, of course, that you are both writing to and talking about a human being that has been thoroughly examined by professionals in the field of psychology/psychiatry and officially found to be alexithymic (as in sans all affective feelings)? RESPONDENT: ...[which are nothing more than feelings of one human being] on the ego-trip of a life-time ... RICHARD: You are aware, of course, that you are both writing to and talking about a human being that has been thorough examined by professionals in the field of psychology/psychiatry and officially found to be depersonalised (as in sans any ego and/or self and/or identity)? RESPONDENT: ...[on the ego-trip of a life-time] or two ... RICHARD: It is a fact there is only one life-time for any flesh and blood body ... and this flesh and blood body is no exception. RESPONDENT: ... [of a life-time or two] who suggests we should compare our delusions ... RICHARD: Just because you did not heed this flesh and blood body’s experientially-based advice RESPONDENT: ... [who suggests we should compare our delusions] to see if they match up and are what you call a PCE ... RICHARD: And when you did seek to compare your delusory dream state, so as to see if it did indeed match up and was what this flesh and blood body calls a PCE, you (capriciously) adjudged all PCE’s to be delusions ... conveniently overlooking the fact that peoples have had PCE’s *before* ever reading The Actual Freedom Trust web site. RESPONDENT: ... [to see if they match up and are what you call a PCE], the cornerstone of your religion. RICHARD: Hmm ... still more contumacity, eh?
CORRESPONDENT No. 53 (Part Ten) RETURN TO THE ACTUAL FREEDOM MAILING LIST INDEX RETURN TO RICHARD’S CORRESPONDENCE INDEX The Third Alternative (Peace On Earth In This Life Time As This Flesh And Blood Body) Here is an actual freedom from the Human Condition, surpassing Spiritual Enlightenment and any other Altered State Of Consciousness, and challenging all philosophy, psychiatry, metaphysics (including quantum physics with its mystic cosmogony), anthropology, sociology ... and any religion along with its paranormal theology. Discarding all of the beliefs that have held humankind in thralldom for aeons, the way has now been discovered that cuts through the ‘Tried and True’ and enables anyone to be, for the first time, a fully free and autonomous individual living in utter peace and tranquillity, beholden to no-one.
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