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Please note that Vineeto’s correspondence below was written by the actually free Vineeto |
(List D refers to Richard’s List D
and his Respondent Numbers)
Vineeto’s Correspondence
with Ed on Discuss Actualism Forum

November 16 2025
ED:
‘Vineeto’: The way I approached the task of becoming harmless was that I first
sought to stop any of my harmless harmful actions or verbal expressions of harm towards other
people.
(Actualism, Vineeto, Actual Freedom List, No. 49, 16.5.2003)
Heads up – I think you used ‘harmless’ when you meant harmful.
“I first sought to stop any of my harmless [edit-harmful] actions or verbal expressions of harm towards other
people.”
VINEETO: Hi Ed,
I appreciate you pointing out the mistake, undiscovered for decades – I have now corrected it on the website.
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Richard: Not at all ... the word ‘harmless’ means ‘lacking intent to injure,
devoid of hurtful qualities, marked by freedom from strife or disorder, innocuous free from guilt; innocent, blameless, faultless,
irreproachable, lily-white; safe, non-dangerous, gentle, mild, peaceful, peaceable ’. (Richard, List C, No. 4b, 7 May 2000a).
VINEETO: Are you really saying that all the above qualities are covered by the term “feeling harmless”?
ED: Yes – exactly. “Harmless” is defined by the
qualities Richard listed. What is the difference between feeling and being? I don’t understand why “feeling
harmless” would not include the above qualities but “being harmless” would.
I’m trying to understand how the two are being distinguished. Could you describe the qualities
of being harmless vs feeling harmless, and point out where feeling harmless falls short? The following quote seems to
clarify things more for me:
VINEETO: Being harmless also means to look at the practical consequences of your
feelings, vibes, words and actions.
ED: I’m trying to understand the distinction between the two:
being harmless vs feeling harmless. It seems what’s being pointed out is that being/ becoming harmless is a more
encompassing affair than feeling harmless. That one doesn’t just consider how one feels, but also considers how
those feelings effect their thoughts, actions, and other people. (And takes it beyond consideration into an
actualization).
Is that it? That feeling harmless only takes into consideration how one feels?
VINEETO: Yes, “feeling harmless only takes into consideration how one
feels”, not what is factually the case. If your arbiter (your feelings) consider it good enough when you
merely feel harmless no matter if this is factually the case, that you are practically being harmless, then a lot of
harmfulness flies under the radar, so to speak.
As Kuba said a few days ago –
Kuba: And just like one can attend to the smaller and smaller dips
in enjoyment and appreciation I find in BJJ I am focused on progressively smaller things, in that an unexperienced
opponent is looking at big and rudimentary motions whereas I am paying attention to whether I can feel the weight on
the toes or the heels, or if the elbow is up or down etc.
So habituation is key to any skill, in that once something is habituated it takes care of itself
and now the mind is able to attend to the next thing.
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VINEETO: In other words, putting the bar so high that you won’t be harmless until you
are actually free, you (inadvertently?) stymie yourself from the start – or perhaps have a valid-to-you
justification to be content with merely feeling harmless.
ED: The bar isn’t set by me – the PCE makes it clear what it
means to be actually harmless.
But I can become virtually harmless – as in free of malice. And thus far in my experience, I’ve
only had success in becoming virtually harmless bit-by-bit and have found no success in giant leaps. The only things
that have appeared to be giant leaps were mere realizations that were exciting to me. Any meaningful change has had
to be actualized bit-by-bit. I have not succeeded with giant leaps to skip-ahead and I personally wouldn’t
recommend counting on them.
Becoming more a bit more harmless is only ever a small step away from where I’m at any given
moment and much more realistic than a giant leap to become a lot more harmless.
VINEETO: Yes, actualising bit-by-bit is the way it works – you change yourself slowly
to a more happy and more harmless person and notice the increasingly finer nuances where there is a diminution in
feeling good or when there are occasions where you felt harmless but nevertheless thoughtlessly caused ripples in
people’s life.
ED: I think part of my confusion in this matter stemmed from me
considering “feeling” and “being” in a different context – such as how they are used here:
RICHARD: (…) it is also to no avail to vociferously
state, for example, that [quote] ‘‘I’ have NEVER been king of the show’ [endquote] because it is ‘me’, at
the core of ‘my’ being (which is ‘being’ itself), who fundamentally determines behaviour/ appearance by ‘my’
very presence (‘my’ affective vibes/ psychic currents are ‘me’).
Put succinctly: there is more to identity than just the ego-self … much, much more.
RESPONDENT: Okay … then I want to find out what it is that’s
more to it.
RICHARD: As simply as possible: it is who you feel yourself to be at the very core of
your being (‘I’ am ‘my’ feelings and ‘my’ feelings are ‘me’).
(Richard, Actual
Freedom List, No. 103a, 14 October 2005).
VINEETO: I don’t understand how this quote from Richard causes confusion about the
difference between feeling harmless (as a subjective feeling) and being harmless (as an objective reality)? Even
though, whilst you are a feeling ‘being’ until you are actually free, you can nevertheless aim to become
increasingly harmless until you are virtually without malice. A practical example might help.
Look, if you wanted to employ a driver for your company, would you choose one who feels
that they are a good and careful driver or choose the one who demonstrates that they are a good and careful driver?
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VINEETO: … or perhaps have a valid-to-you justification to be content with
merely feeling harmless.
ED: Well don’t forget also feeling happy; which in conjunction
means to be as free from malice and sorrow as humanely possible while remaining a ‘self.’ The innocuity and
felicity that ensues is a different quality than my reactive feelings that depend on conditions.
But I think my issue is I’m failing to grasp the difference between merely feeling happy and
harmless and being happy and harmless. Is merely feeling happy and harmless not enough because it’s a temporary
affair, just aimed at feeling that way momentarily but not a fundamental change? Whereas becoming happy and harmless
is something more involved, changing one’s very being?
VINEETO: There, you wrote it yourself “to be as free from malice and sorrow
as humanely possible”, not just to feel as free from malice and sorrow as humanely possible. As I said at
the beginning, feelings are not reliable arbiters of what is factual, whereas when you are being sincere, your own
sincerity aims for “being aligned with factuality/ staying true to facticity” .
Cheers Vineeto

November 17 2025
ED: Thank you for the response, it’s afforded me a lot of
clarification.
VINEETO: Hi Ed,
You are welcome and I am pleased a lot became clearer to you.
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VINEETO: If your arbiter (your feelings) consider it good enough when you merely feel
harmless no matter if this is factually the case, that you are practically being harmless, then a lot of harmfulness
flies under the radar, so to speak.
ED: Yes I agree. What tends to fly under the radar are all those
minor feelings of upset-ness that can be managed and overlooked by the arbiter. Instances of honest mistakes which
lead to harm are one thing, but those cases are few-and-far between (hard to remember any!). At the centre of the
majority of memories of being harmful is how I felt – no matter how it was managed or rationalized, or how
beautiful or righteous it may have seemed.
VINEETO: Ok, you already gave indications where you can direct your affective attention
regarding being harmless – whenever you ‘manage’ or ‘rationalize’ a negative feeling, the feeling is still
there (including the vibes) and the cause of the particular feeling is not addressed and therefore will surface again
at the next opportunity.
The other give-away are your words “how beautiful or righteous it may have seemed”.
Neither “beautiful” nor “righteous” are felicitous/ innocuous feelings. Beauty is
one of the qualities of godliness, stemming from the core philosophical/ religious concept of Hinduism and via
trickle-down effect all religions –
Satyam Shivam Sundaram is a Sanskrit phrase meaning “Truth,
Godliness, and Beauty” and is a core philosophical concept in Hinduism. It suggests that truth is divine, and
divinity is beautiful, representing ultimate values and a path to spiritual enlightenment. It is a way of describing
the nature of the Supreme Being and the ideal path of human existence, emphasizing authenticity, goodness, and the
appreciation of beauty. (…)
Sundaram (Beauty): This represents excellence and all that is beautiful, not just physically, but also the inner
beauty of a virtuous soul and the natural world. It is the manifestation of truth and goodness in its most alluring
form. (Google: satyam shivam sundaram religion).
And:
Richard: As you can see Mr. Jiddu Krishnamurti specifically says
[quote] ‘do not think’ [endquote] which indicates there being no thinker when the outside is the inside ...
meaning that there is no thinker when the observer is the observed.
Thus the ‘observer’ being referred to is the feeler, not the thinker ... for example (also
from the same e-mail):
‘It is essential to appreciate beauty. The beauty of the sky, the beauty of the sun upon the
hill, the beauty of a smile, a face, a gesture, the beauty of the moonlight on the water, of the fading clouds, the
song of the bird, it is essential to look at it, *to feel it*, to be with it, this is the very first
requirement for a man who would seek truth. (...) So it is essential to have this sense of beauty, for *the
feeling of beauty is the feeling of love*’. [emphases added]. (‘Fifth Public Talk at Poona’ by J. Krishnamurti; 21 September 1958).
(Richard, List B, No. 42c, 30 December 2002).
As such the feeling of being beautiful can be quite misleading regards being harmless, for some
people it is a tag for sexual attraction. Richard’s selected correspondence
on Beauty will give you an overall understanding why the feeling of beauty is not a felicitous feeling.
As to “righteous” – the terms righteous anger and righteous indignation
should give you a clue. It is one’s reliance on what one considers right or wrong, according to the real-world
moral and ethical codes, which then gives one the ‘right’ to feel or act in a particular way.
Whereas when your aim of being harmless is informed by the PCE then it would not be backed up by
being ‘right’ but rather in line with pure intent – an actually occurring stream of benevolence and
benignity that originates in the vast and utter stillness that is the essential character of the universe itself.
ED: The method and its facilitatory practice are so effective
because it puts each and every blip of malice and sorrow on the radar such that they can no longer be ignored. And
calibrating oneself towards the absence of malice and sorrow is an excellent way to avoid the pitfalls of personally
determining what happiness and harmlessness is (i.e. based on my pre-existing standards rooted in the instinctual
passions and accompanying morals).
Cheers, it’s a wonderful journey.
VINEETO: This is excellent – when it gets to fine-tuning it is truly fun.
Cheers Vineeto

June 4 2026
VINEETO: However, nowadays pure intent can also be experienced from within the human
condition (i.e., as a feeling ‘being’) when pure intent is experienced via that purity personified (i.e. those
fully free human beings), reported by ‘Peter’, ‘Vineeto’ and ‘Pamela’ as “a sweetness that was
palpable” – plus how ‘he’/ ‘she’ was “literally being bathed in this sweetness”.
(Actualism, Actualvineeto, Kuba14, 30 May 2026a).
ED: Hi Vineeto, does that mean that a feeling being needs to be
in proximity to a fully free human in order to experience pure intent as a feeling being?
VINEETO: Hi Ed,
No, “proximity to a fully free human” is not required. Viz.:
Richard:(…)
• [Richard]: (...). P.S.: Also, briefly, in regards to your ‘armed rebellion’
observations: please be assured that not only will there be a ‘bloodless revolution’ (i.e., non-destructive) but
it will be a non-disruptive transition as well – e.g., no food-shortages or fuel-shortages; trains, coaches,
planes, ships, and so on, still operating, no loss of creature-comforts, &c., &c. – when the global spread of actual freedom/ actualism
eventually takes place’. ~ (Message № 19801, Richard, List D, No. 32a, 21 June 2015).
In other words, it is the consummate nature (i.e., the impeccable quality) of the overarching benevolence and benignity
inherent to the utter purity of the pristine perfection welling ever-fresh as the vast and utter stillness of this universe’s spatial, temporal
and material infinitude which informs, experientially, that a global spread of this completely original consciousness (a totally new way of being
conscious) would, ipso facto, be both a non-destructive and non-disruptive transition.
Furthermore, there would also be the capacity at-that-moment to similarly apprehend, experientially, how it can now be said
– as I happened to mention on a couple of occasions during the pre-arranged foregathering here, earlier this year, of half-a-dozen subscribers to
this forum – that due to the overarching benevolence and benignity being demonstrably available immanently in human consciousness, nowadays
both masculinely and femininely , and thus potentially accessible per favour
naïveté regardless of spatial extension , there is no longer any reason why there cannot be a
global spread of the already always existing peace-on-earth in our lifetimes. (More on this in those Footnotes № 5 and № 6 ). [Emphasis added]. (Richard, List D, No. 4b, #profoundreappraisal).
And –
James: So it is just a matter of seeing clearly that the real-world is an illusion? I see
it but perhaps not clearly enough? I see it most clearly when thinking stops and there is just a sensate body sitting/ laying here. That is the
time to have a pce and see the vast stillness of the universe. Is the pce necessary? ps: Is the pce necessary for pure intent to come out of this
vast stillness?
RICHARD: Prior to 11.25 AM (AEDST) on Saturday, the 14th of November, 2009, a pure consciousness experience (PCE) was
indeed necessary for pure intent – that benevolence and benignity of the vast and utter stillness of the universe itself – and the reason why a
PCE was essential is reported/ described/ explained both on The Actual Freedom Trust website and in ‘Richard’s Journal’.
However, since then a PCE has no longer been a vital factor in the process of becoming actually free of the instinctual
passions/ the feeling-being formed thereof ... indeed, neither of the persons mentioned, as an example, in that first post of mine
(Message No. 10532, Richard, List D, No. 6, 19 December 2011) to this forum in nearly two years could recall a PCE.
Also, what the feeling-being inhabiting this flesh-and-blood body all those years ago experienced as an ‘over-arching
benevolence and benignity’ was experienced by the feeling-being ‘Peter’, on the 29th of December 2009, as [quote] ‘a sweetness that was
palpable’ [endquote] and that ‘he’ was [quote] ‘literally being bathed in this sweetness’ [endquote]. (Those quotes are from Peter’s
report on the original ‘A Long-Awaited Public Announcement’ webpage ).
James: Does the experiencing of the vastness and stillness of the universe bring on the
‘over-arching benevolence and benignity’ which then brings on the ‘sweetness’? Iow, does ‘experiencing the vastness and stillness’ of
the universe come first?
RICHARD: G’day James, My response (above) was both in the context of your query as to whether a PCE is necessary for
pure intent and your follow-up explanation to [No. 24] (Richard, List D, No. 24, 23 January
2012) about the last paragraph of ‘Addendum No. 7’ (that to be actually free from the human condition is to be that pure intent).
Prior to the physical death of my second wife (de jure) Devika/ Irene a PCE was indeed necessary for pure intent; since then
it has no longer been a vital factor in the process of becoming actually free of the instinctual passions/the feeling-being formed thereof as the
impenetrable psychic force-field which Devika had established to protect Richard from other people, and which Irene had transmuted into protecting
other people from Richard, is no longer in existence (in existence psychically, that is, in the real-world).
Consequentially, that ‘over-arching benevolence and benignity’, which the feeling-being inhabiting this flesh-and-blood
body all those years ago experienced [via a PCE] and named ‘pure intent’, became immanently accessible to some select associates
during a specific situational setting called ‘The Second Convivium Gathering’, in late 2009/early 2010, and was variously experienced by them
as a ‘palpable sweetness’, for instance, and an ‘infinite tenderness’, for example, and has been more generally described as ‘being
bathed in intimacy ’.
It was also accessible at-a-distance (hence the thirty-day trial at that time), as a rather remarkable man on another
continent has amply demonstrated, and has been described by him upon meeting in person as a ‘gentle energy’ and a ‘harmless energy’ which
is ‘emanating all around (not directional, like a guru to a devotee, and not at all coarse)’.
Thus to answer your first question: the direct (as in, immediate or unmediated) experiencing of the vast stillness of this
physical universe’s infinitude – where the word stillness refers to there being no movement of time whatsoever (as in ‘this moment has no
duration’) – is the way in which the feeling-being inhabiting this flesh-and-blood body all those years ago became consciously aware of pure
intent [via a PCE] because, back in those days, there had not yet been someone of sufficient naïveté to enable that immaculate perfection to become purity
personified.
Which means that, these days, when that ‘palpable sweetness’ (for instance) is experienced it is that ‘over-arching
benevolence and benignity’ being experienced, by virtue of that immaculate perfection having become manifest in the everyday world as a
flesh-and-blood body only, as they are both one and the same thing in essence. [Emphasis added]. (Richard, List D, James, 6 Feb 2012).
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James: Would it be possible to have this global spread online as we can’t
all make it to Australia?
Richard: G’day James,
You raise two points there which can only be answered by mentioning the third point you left unspoken. (…)
Third, (the point you left unspoken): there already exists a world-wide network – requiring neither technological
wizz-bangs
nor competency in the English language – which has a truly global reach (inherently connecting every single man, woman and child alive today no
matter what their age) and is instantaneous in its effect.
And, most importantly, it is where the real power-play takes place anyway – given that it by-passes both the cognitive and
the affective filters – as its operation has the immediacy of ‘being’ to ‘being’ (‘me’ at the core of ‘my’ being is ‘being’ itself) directivity.
James: What would it take?
Richard: Ha ... enjoying *and* appreciating being alive/ being here, each moment again come what may, by being
as happy and as harmless as is humanly possible via minimising both the ‘good’ and the ‘bad’ feelings and maximising both the felicitous *and*
the innocuous feelings.
Put simplistically (for maximum effect): the way to bring about global peace and harmony, in our lifetimes, is by having fun.
(I am having such a ball here at the keyboard). (Richard,
List D, James, 2 July 2013).
Cheers Vineeto

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