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Vineeto’s Correspondence with Emp on Discuss Actualism Forum
EMP: Thank you for this timely reminder Vineeto VINEETO: Hi Emp, You very likely did – something like ‘noticing in a positive way’. Never mind you used the anaemic meaning for 15 years – it’s always great to start afresh with a new insight and enjoy that it works. To emphasize how significant the word “appreciate”/ “appreciation” is, to everyone who had similar misconceptions
about it, let me start by saying that it appears five times in the running banners of “This Moment of Being Alive” [Richard]: –
Appreciation is the most potent aspect of the actualism method because as I said before – it “is the very key to
*exponentially* increase the level of your enjoyment, expand it in scope and depth“ […] to the point of excellence being the norm. It is
the key to upgrade your “hedonic adaptation set-point“ EMP: It took me until about a month ago to realize that it’s anything but anaemic. It’s funny how this understanding has leaked through lately even though I’ve been bad at actively engaging it (down to getting comments about how positive I am, which is as close to a personality transplant as you’d get). VINEETO: It seems to have already worked marvellous for you, Emp – “a personality transplant” is no small thing to bring about. Now when you do it more actively and consciously, perhaps even as a deliberate decision and commitment to feel good/excellent for the rest of your life, it will be even more of a palpable “personality transplant” beyond recognition of the old Emp. And it is such fun!
EMP: Hmm, I really need to get going, don’t I? Don’t wanna be stuck in the bathroom while the
rest of you go for destiny. ;-)(If you know, you know). VINEETO: Hi Emp, That is a very good insight and well worth putting into action. Women can become as easily actually free as men, and given that I am a female myself, who has gone all the way, perhaps Richard’s record of how ‘Vineeto’ went about this may strike a chord with you.
Well, this 4-to-1 ratio has so far not been repeated since then, which makes your realisation especially valuable and well-worth actualising. The deep experience of pure intent, which you expressed on June 8 –
– will guide you to feeling excellent as your default hedonic state and from there it’s only a skip and a jump to give yourself permission to giving up control and letting the universe live you, like Claudiu and Kuba have recently done. You’ll be catching up with them in no time. After all, we are aiming for nothing less than peace on earth.
EMP: It’s fascinating reading your reports Kuba and Claudiu. I’m not where you are but it’s interesting how easily available intent and appreciation is these days - I read your reports and it’s like it’s all on tap, available to all. Massively fascinating. I didn’t sense much of the last wave but this wave seems to be almost ubiquitous, for lack of a better word. Also thank you Vineeto for being here and adding some interesting back pressure at times (it really
isn’t pressure, it’s more like the fascination over the new/revised materials keep piquing my interest over and over again, making it impossible
to slack off). VINEETO: Hi Emp, It’s a great time to be alive
EMP: Although the more I look at this the more I see that really this is just a self-centred motivation, fuelled by a fear of being a complete outcast, and furthermore fuelled by the fear of no longer ‘being’ at all. At least when I explore it myself it’s a sort of bartering, isn’t it? “Look, ’I’ am useful!”, i.e. “Please let me stay!”. I’ve been having this back and forth quite a bit lately. VINEETO: Hi Emp, Welcome back. I always read your words with interest. I remember this bartering – researches on people close to death found five stages happening for most people – Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance/Resignation. Here is a bit of ‘Vineeto’s’ writing on the topic from ‘her’ early days of actualism (1998) you might enjoy –
Now I know – because it actually happened that way – that apart from overcoming fear and doubt something far more delicious
(If you like to have a private conversation about any issues, you are welcome to message me. I know it is often easier to nut out something when you put it in words.)
VINEETO: Hello Emp, I’d like to start our conversation with something you said in your convivium report – EMP: Secondly, what I was saying to Geoffrey on the first day, that gave rise to sincerity, all
started with mentioning how I’d messaged Vineeto privately two years ago and she’d challenged me back and like the coward I am I ran for the
hills. Saying this untied a knot of fairly large proportions and then the rest of that house of cards came down. I know Vineeto doesn’t need an
apology but still… I’m a massive coward. VINEETO: There is indeed no apology needed – I realized I had been bombarding you with probing questions before we were even properly acquainted, and this was certainly not the most gentle approach. And sometimes it’s just not the right time, but perhaps now it is? If you allow me, I would like to comment on some of what you reported after you went back home – EMP: On Monday I was getting a bit antsy though. I needed to be able to get somewhere at home. The weather felt oppressive (rainy and cold, and nature seemed to be dead and barren compared to Algarve). I told my colleagues I’d work from home and with my hours a bit skewed, and went out for a walk. I did think that maybe I was being a bit insane about the whole thing, and perhaps also a bit avoidant (I do tend to have this problem) but it seemed to me that proving to myself that I could do it at home had to be my priority above all else, and I had the margins at work to be flexible. As I was walking around I started noticing that plants that had seemed dead to me started popping out when I took the time to relax and let things happen. I eventually found myself at a cliffside (with proper fencing!) looking out over the sea and the ships coming in and noticing that sweetness coming in from all sides. I could do it, even when it was raining! I played around with Gemini and plants again but had to keep an eye on other people wondering why the heck I was jumping around the cliffs looking at moss. There’s a lot of social identity there still and I need to whittle that part down. VINEETO: What I notice you seem to be a very sensuous, vivacious and passionate person but with a strong habit to put yourself down for everything you observe going on in yourself, even when it’s towards freeing yourself (“a bit insane”, “a lot of social identity”). I can understand it well because ‘Vineeto’ oft-times had similar sentiments but it is very counterproductive – ‘you’ can only be “the solution” (as well as the problem) when you are a friend to yourself, when ‘I’ become an ally in this adventure of a lifetime to undo ‘myself’. So when you talk about harmlessness, that needs to include yourself, being harmless with yourself. When you have a feeling attack – and they are bound to happen – sitting on your hands includes not beating yourself up. It’s this very beating up which feeds negative affective energy and increases the problem, whatever it is – those are the simple mechanics of how feelings (i.e. how ‘you’) operate. Not feeding them, not going in any direction while they rage is the quickest way to calm down. EMP: I started feeling my motivation ramping up. I really wanted this. I wanted what I’d experienced in Algarve like I’d never wanted anything before. I did start noticing how I was throwing myself indiscriminately at it like a rabid pit bull though. Whenever I thought of slowing down I could just hear myself going “turn down for WHAT!” and then I kept at it. (…) I’ve spent so many years being more or less entirely dissociated that getting out of it so cleanly, and then spending close to a week so close to the actual, was bound to give me some kind of whiplash getting back. VINEETO: It’s wonderful, isn’t it, to know exactly what you want. But then ‘I’ take charge and use this very wonderful aim to prove that it’s not possible by “throwing myself indiscriminately at it like a rabid pit bull”. It’s one of ‘my’, the identity’s strategies to psychologically/ psychically survive – and when you see that, really see that, you will stop doing that to yourself, become calm (realizing you have “all the time in the universe”) and experientially move towards what you want like you “never wanted anything before”. There will be backlashes and fear attacks, an actual freedom is against the instinctually-programmed nature of your being. But
there is also, deep down, a secret yearning for oblivion, for an end to this constant fighting defending the status quo, to be the ever-alert guardian
of the secret that you are being “a fraud and a parasite” EMP: I looked at the forum and saw Adam-H’s response in the convivium thread and something clicked in me. I went and got my heated blanket and snuggled up underneath it, softened my approach entirely and suddenly everything that had been bothering me just melted away. I could once again feel that undercurrent of sweetness that had suffused the entire convivium week, and this time without working myself into a pretzel just to get a whiff of it. I just lay in my bed, listening to the wind blowing things around outside and feeling calm for the first time in days. VINEETO: The very confirmation that you don’t have to fight to experience actuality, the “undercurrent of sweetness” – it is already always existing. EMP: And finally, I need to soften my approach. I’ve had a couple of really rocky days when
I’ve tried to force things while pretending I wasn’t forcing things. (…) There’s a large part of me that wants to fail, because this is scary.
It went so fast that I knew I could do it, and I could do it right away. I’ve tried to channel that part of me that wants to sabotage this as some
kind of reckless abandon but I’m not sure it works. I even wrote, as one of my first notes to myself, that ‘I’ grow and stay alive in the
friction, in the desperation and in the phugoid oscillations I keep creating for myself. If I succeed I’m gone and no longer needed, and that still
frightens me. I can see, whenever I get closer to the sweetness and actuality, that I’m not needed, but I need to do this with more situations and
also not working so hard for it, almost driving myself silly in the process. VINEETO: This is very perspicacious and you have a wonderful way of expressing it (I had to look up what you are creating for yourself). “Working so hard for it” is certainly counterproductive and a tricky way of ‘you’, the identity taking and maintaining control –
EMP: PS. I also had a bit of a chuckle at myself; I’ve had some kind of experience every day
now, of the sweetness, seeing glimpses of the actual, finding my way back to the golden clew. Everything has taken on a glittering quality even in my
day-to-day living and here I am, still beating myself up over Not Doing Enough. VINEETO: Ah, that is great when you can see the humour and silliness of “beating myself up over Not Doing Enough”. It’s only a matter of the bad habit of beating yourself up but that can be fixed with friendly patience and perseverance. All the best with lots of enjoyment and appreciation, and the sweetness of pure intent.
EMP: Hi Vineeto, thank you for your response! I won’t leave you on read this time. I did however have a very eventful day so I’ll keep it brief for now until everything has settled. VINEETO: Hi Emp, Thank you for your prompt reply despite your eventful day. EMP: I was pondering today what you said about beating myself up, while also trying to feel out rumination (I’ve come to realise that rumination is a lot more than just the anxiety-ridden thought marathons I’d get up to regularly). At the same time I was quite upset and torn about a loyalty and empathy question in my personal life which I just couldn’t seem to solve without ending up in a bind. After a lot of back and forthing, the only way out seemed to be to just cut myself more slack than I’ve ever cut myself in my whole life, the longest leash I’ve ever given myself and no more self-recrimination. That was the only way I could get down deep enough into myself to get at the rift. At the same time, I’m scared I’ll just get a reply back that “well, how will you conduct yourself now that you’ve let yourself off the hook? How will you learn if there’s no 15 minutes of hate after you’ve done something bad(1)?” It feels like somehow the Thought Police will know there’s a woman walking around in Sweden not lambasting herself for her mistakes while being friends with her grotty self (quelle horreur!). Maybe it’s ridiculous but that’s the base of the emotion right now. (1) 99% of the time, not something bad at all, but my moralistic framing makes it so in my rumination cave. VINEETO: Questioning your loyalty and sense of belonging, or the demand for empathy, are both values deeply rooted in the human condition and you cannot come to a sensible clean solution balancing one against the other. Here is something ‘Vineeto’ wrote regarding ‘her’ fears abandoning the ship … perhaps you can relate –
Therefore, “to just cut myself more slack” might work in the short term but, as you describe, with more fears of
reprisal for being amoral It’s important to recognize that actualism is a totally different ballgame altogether; then you can slowly step out of those parameters and follow your intent and commitment to be happy and harmless. When you are felicitous and naïve and like yourself, you are simultaneously harmless (they are one and the same thing) and then, with pure intent operating, you now longer require the straight-jacket of the real-world morals and ethics because you are already more friendly, amiable, considerate and courteous than any rule-obeying feeling being can ever be. It takes a while to work this out experientially but the longer you do it the more you see that it makes sense. When you are not in the grip of fervent emotions, you might try out attentiveness (instead of rumination), the way Richard described it here –
I always liked the last sentence – “attentiveness does not play favourites”. Normally as a feeling being everything experienced is valued either ‘good’ or ‘bad’ or somewhere in-between, hence embraced or rejected. When deliberately nothing is at stake but a fascination for non-passionate reflective exploration, it is much easier to discover a pattern, a belief, a system and find out how the mind works and how ‘I’ tick. EMP: I also took it upon myself to ponder why “we have all the time in the universe”
doesn’t quite click for me and while it was just a brief glimpse. I think I might have started to understand what it actually means… and I tried
ramping up my intent afterwards and I no longer felt squeezed between a rock and a hard place. I’ll need longer glimpses before I consider this
properly experienced though. VINEETO: Having “all the time in the universe” only applies in actuality – in the real world time is ‘self’-centric, limited and boxed in by what you feel you need/ want to achieve before the sun sets or ‘time is up’, and the more achievements, whatever they are, you can squeeze into the hours of the day the ‘better’ a person you, and others, consider you to be. The mistake many actualists make is that they deem this schedule of achievements and boxes to tick to also apply to the actualism method – it does not. It’s really the contrary – you allow actuality to become apparent (actuality being already actually existing and perfect) via sensuosity, enjoyment and appreciation of being here in this moment of being alive.
EMP: Hi again! VINEETO: Having “all the time in the universe” only applies in actuality – in the real world time is ‘self’-centric, limited and boxed in by what you feel you need/ want to achieve before the sun sets or ‘time is up’, and the more achievements, whatever they are, you can squeeze into the hours of the day the ‘better’ a person you, and others, consider you to be. The mistake many actualists make is that they deem this schedule of achievements and boxes to tick to also apply to the actualism method – it does not. EMP: Yup. I’m not sure why I couldn’t put what I saw into the proper context, because when you wrote it out like this I realised that that was exactly what I thought in that moment; I’d been working on some sort of “workout plan” with actualism without noticing, and decided to drop it as well as I could once I saw it. I had what I think was at least an EE right after seeing that, and it muddied things even more in my head. It was a bit of a wild Sunday. I think I was also desperate enough to keep the momentum going that I started being a bit careless. VINEETO: Hi Emp, I do enjoy reading your lively reports and I am pleased you not only understand what I wrote about real-world time and actual time but that you had worked it out yourself already. EMP: I’ve also realised that for now I need to jettison a few things that others have told me that I haven’t taken on board and understood properly myself. One of them is the “I should whittle down my social identity as much as possible”, another one is the “I don’t understand ‘we have all the time in the universe’ and I need to”. I genuinely don’t know, and I want to reach the experiential seeing myself before I can make out the road ahead. I’m also not as verbal as I imagined myself to be, and I sometimes don’t quite find the words. Especially when I get out of one of my EE-almost-PCEs it tends to feel like I’m back to drawing with crayons instead of the massive palette that’s available while closer to the actual. VINEETO: You certainly shouldn’t whittle down your social identity. The suggestion is that you can have a close look at those social identity issues if and when they interfere with your general enjoyment and appreciation of being alive, and only do so when your pure intent is firmly in place. Regarding any other tools of the actualism method you have possibly entered into your ‘should’-section,
remember what Richard said repeatedly during the Dona&Alan visit that there are no conditions EMP: I’m currently sat with the loyalty and empathy thing but I’ve noticed how I’ve dared trying to move away from empathy. It has helped me immensely, but the votes are still out on whether the other part will be better off or if she wants something from me that I can’t give her (and she doesn’t want the alternative). I’ve well and truly done what I can with what I have right now. I’ll add some concrete things about the whole situation later on, but right now I’m in the middle of it and it affects others and I’d rather not write too much about their personal life in the open. VINEETO: As a feeling being ‘I’ want to be confirmed, sometimes desperately, in ‘my’
existence as a contingent ‘being’, and it’s difficult to then recognize a genuine caring from the other unless it’s
provided with all the trappings of sympathy, empathy and love (trappings, which would include the ties which promise a
permanent continuation of your care). Yet the only close-to-actual care you can give is to disentangle yourself from the
ties of “the trap of compassion” and the guilt of loyalty as much as you can. The more you do the more you
will be able to give them your full attention devoid of resentment, a freely given care and appreciation to a fellow
human being – simply because they are a fellow human being and not because you owe them something. (You may
find Richard’s correspondence regarding near-actual-caring EMP: I’ve also noticed that I tend to get very chatty in my head
thinking about writing these reports and it does diminish what I’m experiencing quite a bit. I’ll find a way to not
make this an issue but for now I need to pull back a little bit. VINEETO: Ha, I do remember that. Richard relayed it this way to Alan –
‘Vineeto’ at one time called it ‘her’ “mad-scientist” But then you already had feedback how people do benefit from your reports. Being chatty to yourself is also a kind of buffer when the experiencing becomes too intense and you are trying to make sense of what it happening – it all seems to be going really well.
EMP: Hi! VINEETO: I do enjoy reading your lively reports and I am pleased you not only understand what I wrote about real-world time and actual time but that you had worked it out yourself already. EMP: Maybe I do actually need to write more so I don’t leave you typing things to me that I’ve already understood. OTOH you express yourself far better and more precise, and I enjoy chatting with you. I’m genuinely trying not to do the scattergun approach but there’s so much happening that I can barely fit in a fraction of a day’s worth of reflecting and experiencing, and I forget half of it. VINEETO: Hi Emp, I enjoy chatting with you, and your “scattergun approach” seems to be appropriate to what is happening at present – the human condition is such a vast field of exploration, and it would not only be difficult but counterproductive to try and stream-line it when experiences and explorations tumble forth, thereby losing its naiveté and vivaciousness. If I write something you already know, that is ok, it’s par for the course. * VINEETO: You certainly shouldn’t whittle down your social identity. The suggestion is that you can have a close look at those social identity issues if and when they interfere with your general enjoyment and appreciation of being alive, and only do so when your pure intent is firmly in place. Regarding any other tools of the actualism method you have possibly entered into your ‘should’-section,
remember what Richard said repeatedly during the Dona&Alan visit that there are no conditions EMP: Ah, so, about me writing more, here’s where it would’ve helped if I’d added this to the convivium report. I think I was the one that pottered up to Geoffrey on the third(?) day to point out that I’d seen that there’s no “pedigree” in actualism. You don’t have to serve up who you are, where you grew up, who you studied with, what you’ve accomplished as some kind of admittance fee. For some reason I’d taken on a lot of assumptions about my own capacity and eligibility, and this was a fairly big one that I hadn’t noticed until it just fell away. The fact that there are no conditions is absolutely amazing. I had a lot of fun reading through the links you provided, and given that I’ve been at this for a long time there were lots of memories connected with the writings, not the least how I thought about actualism back then. I remember seeing it as a very linear path with milestones and prerequisites and I’m amazed at how this has changed and how sensible it is that it’s, again, right here and right now. The linear progression thinking also kept it in some indefinite future for me, and I’m quite glad to be rid of that. Just the mere thought of the actual always being right under my feet, like a golden path (no idea why I’ve started remembering the old cartoon The Mysterious Cities of Gold and associating it with this whole adventure, but here we are) makes me feel like a giant wave is cresting below me and carrying me forward relentlessly. VINEETO: It was probably ‘Peter’s’ and ‘Vineeto’s’ doing that it had the appearance of a “very linear path” because that is how most feeling beings approach almost everything new they encounter. I remember ‘Vineeto’ in the beginning having great trouble to wrap ‘her’ head around that now is this only moment being alive (which also meant becoming actually free will happen now – very scary too). Indeed, there is neither a “pedigree” nor any “admittance fee” in actualism, and it is enormously liberating to have this really sunk in. Your description of “a giant wave is cresting below me” reminds me of Richard’s own description –
Or more explicit –
The fact that you write that it is “carrying me forward relentlessly” shows that your concerns about missing “pressure” or “inertia” are merely fabricated by an identity who wants to maintain control of the process via the time-old (instinctual) tools of ‘carrot and stick’ – but habitually more ‘stick’ than ‘carrot’, by your description. EMP: I feel a bit like I’m in limbo though; I’m used to using my performance anxiety and external pressure to keep things going. I’m also used to receding into inertia when not whipped by external circumstances. I currently feel like I can’t go back, but I don’t know how to move forward, except one step at a time. I sometimes wake up scared that I’ll go back to normal and forget all about this without pressuring myself to go on. There’s no map, there’s nothing predictable about this. I read through the vintage Vineeto you sent regarding the mad scientist phase (vintage Vineeto is a term of endearment for me here, I remember enjoying your writings immensely during a time when what Richard wrote was far too dense and confrontational for me, and getting re-acquainted with this discussion was a hoot) and I could recognise almost everything. Doing this on my own is very disorienting at times. Whenever I want to get back to my old habits – seeking reassurance from others, emotional support, venting, even asking ChatGPT – I realise that I actually don’t want to. The door to normality isn’t closed but I’m sure as hell not going to help in keeping it open.… but it takes a lot to stand on your own and just go for it. VINEETO: Ha, I like your term ‘vintage Vineeto’ and understand that Richard’s writing
was (on occasion?) “too dense and confrontational”. I forget mostly how mind boggling it had been for
‘her’, but then ‘she’ read the mailing list every day and had regular meetings with Richard, where some of the questions could be cleared up.
Particularly extracting ‘herself’ from the spiritual beliefs and loyalties took several months, but after an outstanding PCE EMP: I’m also used to emotions having this predictable structure and map to it… I don’t even know how to describe it; going by emotions there’s a linearity and a safety. I know what I’ll get – it’ll always be disappointment, but I know what I’ll get. It’s easy to communicate in emotions, it’s easy to “map yourself out” in emotions; they have a recognisable shape and form and it’s easy to navigate society with emotions. I know it’s not easy, but it’s “easy” as reverting to norm is always “easy”. This has been the hardest for me to describe; just as allowing pure intent is such a weird manoeuvre for someone who’s used to forcing everything, moving forward without using emotional pressure is one hell of a mindfuck. It’s this constant moving out of the way and allowing and I don’t have that in me reflexively yet; sometimes it takes a while to get back to a good baseline. I want to work hard, to toil and to force but that’s not how it’s done and it would only reinforce “me”. VINEETO: Ha, I gain the impression from your words that pure intent is happening, and humour too, no longer waiting for your express permission (“makes me feel like a giant wave is cresting below me and carrying me forward relentlessly”) and all of the above-described emotions are to distract and discourage you from what it already happening, but to no avail! Your last paragraph in this post confirms it even more –
* VINEETO: As a feeling being ‘I’ want to be confirmed, sometimes desperately, in ‘my’
existence as a contingent ‘being’, and it’s difficult to then recognize a genuine caring from the other unless it’s
provided with all the trappings of sympathy, empathy and love (trappings, which would include the ties which promise a
permanent continuation of your care). Yet the only close-to-actual care you can give is to disentangle yourself from the
ties of “the trap of compassion” and the guilt of loyalty as much as you can. The more you do the more you
will be able to give them your full attention devoid of resentment, a freely given care and appreciation to a fellow
human being – simply because they are a fellow human being and not because you owe them something. (You may
find Richard’s correspondence regarding near-actual-caring EMP: Yeah, this one has proven to be a big one for me. I keep thinking I’ve resolved something and then it’ll rear its head again, or the situation will change. I can handle it so far, but empathy and care are hard to deal with for me and coupled with guilt it turns slightly radioactive. I can sometimes get so hamstrung by this that I have to remind myself to move and actually do something to get out of the inherent “stuckness” of these fears and the rumination. It helps a lot to think about what’s is actually actual, as a lot of the scenarios I’m thinking up aren’t happening right now. It still feels like I’m constantly bouncing between trying to avoid appeasement while doing the reasonable thing, while also not being affected by someone else’s emotions and suffering in the process. I guess this is yet another situation where I’ve read too much about it and not experienced enough; I know logically that everything you’re saying makes sense, but I haven’t seen it properly and I need to show myself that I can do this without “me”. It’s a slow and gradual peeling of the layers. VINEETO: Again, I can only suggest to remember to be a friend to yourself to neither push or criticise what you think and do but rather be aware of it and, if possible, keep you hands in your pockets when emotions well up too strong. A lot of change can happen in the background such as “a day’s worth of reflecting and experiencing, and I forget half of it”. Some changes take time to settle and then suddenly appear as practical changes on the surface – a bit like osmosis (fig. gradual, usu. unconscious assimilation or absorption of ideas, knowledge, etc. ~ Oxford Dictionary). EMP: By the way, there was something that Geoffrey mentioned that really stuck with me (and I’d like anyone who reads this to not mistake it for something that it isn’t, because I think it might be very easy to abstract this reasoning into an excuse for splitting, instead of actually seeing what it means); “I” think I’m needed for the protection of this body, and I need to show myself that that’s not the case. It’s a fucked up caring, in a sense, thinking that the body will never be safe unless “I” am there watching out for it, controlling it, monitoring it. I’ve seen it in the small things but there’s a lot of fear blocking trying it out on the bigger things. ETA: I took a break from writing and when I came back, I realised that these last couple of paragraphs were emotionally very heavy… and I’m wondering if this is really such a big deal as I’m making it out to be. I’m getting a whiff of drama created for the sake of staying alive. Anyway. VINEETO: It is a big deal because this is still a grand pioneering adventure – not only going against your own instinctual programming, emotional intuition, life-long habituation and socialisation, but also contrary to what everyone around you is aspiring to. But then, that is what pioneers do; explore new territory (in human consciousness) and make exciting, universally beneficial discoveries regarding peace on earth, for you and for the benefit of everyone. Give yourself credit for what you are doing. EMP: I’ll keep writing if that helps. On a less heavy note, back to the fun of reading all the links. It’s amazing how different everything reads now that I have access/ a connection to pure intent to the extent I do. As I mentioned previously, a lot of what Richard wrote was too dense and confrontational to me, and now all of it makes sense, especially the word choices and the order of words. There was a quote from Richard that I wanted to put here, but now I can’t for the life of me find it; it was a description a bit like the numbered list on Dona and Alan’s Questions page, but it was in free-flowing text and described to a tee the process I’m currently using. VINEETO: This is great to read. Is it perhaps something like the first section here EMP: Also, I’d like to emphasise this for anyone who has the same tendencies as me:
“pure intent is firmly in place” – I have done this without pure intent in place and it’s deeply unpleasant. I can add it to my gallery of useless achievements, but I would not recommend it to anyone. VINEETO: Thank you for this confirmation and insight. EMP: Anyway, I’ve been having so much fun writing. Yesterday
destiny kept popping up whenever I was contemplating. It’s neither here nor there but I kept circling back to how it
seemed like this is where I’m supposed to go, this is my destiny and there really is nowhere else to be. I know
“I” can’t technically go in the end, but the wave keeps adding this forward pressure that I keep wanting to
ride. It’s exhilarating, fun, joyful, exuberant, the biggest adventure, and the deepest laughter, you could imagine (I
don’t want to anthropomorphize it, but the welling causes the laughter and so it’s as close as I can get to
describing it). VINEETO: Ah, that sounds wonderful – it feels good, it makes sense (in fact it’s the only thing that makes sense) and the PCEs confirm it is actual, perfect and what/where you always wanted to be. Enjoy the ride of the biggest adventure of your life. I just went onto the back deck for some evening air and the almost-full moon is reflected on the water, its reflection rippled by a gentle breeze. The air is soft and friendly and it’s just wonderful to be here. Much appreciation for an enjoyable conversation.
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