Please note that Vineeto’s correspondence below was written by the actually free Vineeto |
(List D refers to Richard’s List D
and his Respondent Numbers)
Vineeto’s Correspondence
with James on Discuss
Actualism Forum
See Direct Route: No.
5
See
Richard, Mailing List ‘D’: No. 17
See Vineeto, Actual
Freedom List: No. 16
June 25 2024
JAMES:
It might help to expose the ‘me’ a little: I hate
Vineeto.
VINEETO:
Hi James,
Today, when searching for something unrelated I came across an interesting email you sent in
January 2010 -
[Vineeto to James, PS]: I am pleased to read on the Yahoo list that your ‘animosity toward
Vineeto’ that had troubled you for years was finally resolved – just in time before
that ‘Vineeto’ disappeared forever from the face of the earth. Direct Route, No. 5, 16 January 2010
[James to No. 4]: ‘In that
discussion with you I was able to go deep into the feeling itself by staying with the feeling until I reached the
core of my being. When I reached the core it was as if the feeler (feeling) itself was smoothly wiped away. I saw how
smooth it could be and that I didn’t need anyone else to do it. I have had no further animosity toward Vineeto or
anyone else since then.’ Re: A Long-Awaited Public Announcement, Thu Jan
14, 2010 3:16pm.
[James]: Yes I am very pleased about
that also. That was just in time. It is quite a relief to get that monkey off my back. I can truly say now that all
animosity toward you is gone. The call for others to join you, Richard and Peter in the actual world sooner rather
than later has given me a sense of urgency. The question now is: Can I act on this sense of urgency before it
languishes and then exactly how do I act on it from where I am to expedite this process sooner rather than later? Direct Route, No. 5, 17 January 2010
Doesn’t it seem a bit silly to you to revive a 14yrs old corpse of resentment and allow it to
delay your progress towards becoming actually free?
Cheers Vineeto
July 14, 2024
Torch bearer
JAMES: Vineeto I can now say that I have no more malice toward you. I am glad
that you are carrying on Richard’s torch.
VINEETO: Hi James,
This is excellent and it looks like I received a new title next to my name.
So now that you succeeded in getting rid of an old objection by seeing that it is
silly, you can use this same technique to put aside any objection that interfere with you enjoying and appreciating
this moment of being alive as in –
[Richard]: Once the specific moment of ceasing to feel good is pin-pointed, and
the silliness of having such an incident as that (no matter
what it is) take away one’s enjoyment and appreciation of this only moment of being alive is seen for what it is
For instance, where you say –
[James]: Objections to becoming af (continued) :
I am too old now. Struggling with skeletal pain and low energy. My time has
passed..
In this instance, rather than continue to object to the pain, you realize that
time is of the essence, hence it is even more important that you don’t waste this moment of being alive with
feeling bad but recognize that this is silly. You proceed to *actualize* this insight and get back to enjoying
*and* appreciating this moment and voilà you are back to feeling good.
You can also acknowledge and realize the fact that pain is part of being alive,
especially when getting older. You take care with what is medically possible, but even more importantly, you stop
objecting to having pain simply because it is useless and therefore silly to do so. You will also be surprised how
much the feeling of pain is reduced when you no longer object to it. Miguel only recently confirmed this to you.
As a feeling being ‘Vineeto’ has experienced this time and time again and
nowadays any pain that occurs which is simply something going on in the background which does not interfere with
thoroughly enjoying and appreciating being here.
It will take a commitment to continue feel good each moment again, in order to
break the old and familiar habit of finding things to complain about and object to – human are creatures of habit
and it will need some determination and perspicacity to break such habits. As Richard was sometimes fond of saying “illegitimi non carborundum”.
However, I am confident that with the awareness that time is of the essence you can succeed.
Cheers Vineeto
July 24, 2024
JAMES: I’m stuck now on feeling good and enjoying and appreciating. I’ve stayed here for
long periods of time in the past. No urge to becoming af. My objection is to making the effort necessary to go all
the way. This is easy, I don’t have to do anything to stay here. I’ve always taken the easy way out.
Just do as much as I have to. On top of that I really don’t know how to move on. There is no need.
Ok, let me tune in to pure intent. I have a clear memory of it from a
pce. That seems like the next step from
where I am right now.
VINEETO:
Hi James,
1. When you have sincerely decided to act on your excellent insight that taking “the easy way
out” is not enough (because it only results in a resigned attitude towards life), the first thing to do is to
read the instruction manual, i.e. “This Moment of Being Alive” including the very instructive tool-tips.
2. Then you check if you enjoy and appreciate each moment of being alive, because the latter is the key to
both increasing your enjoyment and consequently your appreciation of being alive. To understand the word appreciation
you can look at its opposite - depreciation = devaluation, cheapening, reduction in value, disparage. Hence
appreciation means assessing of the true worth or value of persons or things and thus adding value, enriching,
encouraging (the expansion of your value assessment), highly regarding, cherishing, marvelling.
Appreciation is the very key to exponentially increase the level of your enjoyment, expand it in scope and depth,
so that you are able to see more and more how the universe is happening with wondrous perfection in all the various,
minute and large, details of life and matter. Encouraging naiveté is an essential ingredient to marvelling, delight and wonderment.
Note: without applying appreciation one
would merely dabble in the real-world self-help advice of “don't worry, be happy”
which has naught to do with the actualism method.
3. With the ongoing increase in appreciation and the consequent appreciative enjoyment it will be easy to follow
Richard’s instructions further –
[Richard]: “one up-levels ‘feeling good’, as a bottom line each moment again, to ‘feeling happy and harmless’ ... and after that to ‘feeling excellent’[...] to the point of excellence being the norm.”
[Richard]: “Being ‘alive’ is to be paying attention – exclusive attention – to this
moment in time and this place in space. This attention becomes fascination ... and fascination leads to reflective contemplation. Then – and only
then – apperception can occur. An apperceptive awareness can be evoked by paying exclusive attention to being fully alive right now. This moment
is your only moment of being alive ... one is never alive at any other time than now. And, wherever you are, one is always here ... even if you
start walking over to ‘there’, along the way to ‘there’ you are always here ... and when you arrive ‘there’, it too is here. Thus
attention becomes a fascination with the fact that one is always here ... and it is already now. Fascination leads to reflective contemplation. As
one is already here, and it is always now ... then one has arrived before one starts.”
4. Then, when your are more and more at home feeling excellent you can make the daring decision (as an active
step) to let the universe live you, in lieu of 'you' dictating and controlling your life.
[Richard]: “Lastly, the actualism method segues into what has become known as the actualism process when the
actualism method has become so automatic, via habituation, that one is walking about in a state of wide-eyed wonder
(naiveté) simply marvelling at being alive (sensuosity) and being amazed/ delighted that all this – the world
about/the universe itself – is occurring in the first place; the actualism process is when it becomes more and more
difficult to distinguish the difference between one doing it (doing this business called being alive) and it
happening of its own accord; when one becomes the experiencing of being alive/of it all occurring of its own accord
one is then out-from-control (not ‘out of control’ as in wayward) and a different-way-of-being has ensued.
It all becomes rather magical (‘magical’ as in prestidigitation) after that.”
(Private Correspondence with Claudiu, 29 February 2012)
This ongoing actualism process has been described on this forum in excellent details by
Claudiu
(and lots of follow-ups) and recently by Kuba.
Ok James, pull up the anchor and enjoy being on your way once more.
Cheers Vineeto
August 29, 2024
JAMES: I had an experience of leaving humanity which seemed to be like fear without the
feeling.
JAMES: I woke up and there was an emptiness like nowhere to turn. It seemed like fear but there was no feeling.
VINEETO:
Hi James,
It seems you have been pushing yourself to leaving humanity because you have ended up in an ASC/state of dissociation.
“Emptiness”
is the wrong direction if you want to become actually free from the human condition.
I suggest getting back to feeling good … and read the freshly-published report from Dona and Alan, which talks a lot about the difference between forcefully attempting self-immolation and giving oneself permission to allow it to happen.
Cheers Vineeto
August 30, 2024
JAMES: The problem I have with allowing it to happen is it never happens.
VINEETO:
Hi James,
I think the reason is that you misunderstand/misinterpret the words “allowing it to happen”.
You seem to think it equivalent to waiting for it to happen in a passive way.
This is not the case at all. Becoming free from the human condition needs your active intention and participation. In fact to become free from all the ills of the human condition you need to want it like you never wanted anything in your life and do whatever you can to be able to let it happen when the time is ripe.
Here is one answer in the recently mentioned web-page report from Dona and Alan,
which I recommended for your reading yesterday –
Geoffrey: There is something I’ve been thinking about since:
James: Dona, I have a question for Richard: What will it take for me to go the rest of the way
to af?
Dona: Richard was confused by this question, as it sounds
like you think there are steps, or “a way”. Actual freedom from the human condition is a
pivotal/decisive moment. You are either actually free or you are not (full stop). It is not possible to go
“the rest of the way”.
(my remark: same as a PCE… you are either in a PCE or you are not)
Dona: Since we cannot eliminate ourselves, by ourselves
(you cannot pull yourself up with your own bootstraps) he suggests that you set this intention: “I give myself
permission to allow it to happen.”
I remember making a remark on Slack that ‘allowing it to happen’ we usually used in reference to
having PCEs, not self-immolation. And that it was a nice ‘parallel’ between the identity going in abeyance, and
in oblivion.
But I was wondering if there was more to this than just a ‘parallel’.
Alan: Richard has never suggested “trying to
self-immolate”. There are no ‘rules’ and no conditions for self-immolation to happen.
… and there go my many ‘attempts’ lol, including yesterday’s one (when I was
“contemplating on altruism”) – which interestingly ended in a PCE. This has happened lately, that when
‘trying’ to self-immolate I don’t end up in ASCs anymore, but in PCEs. This is the case since I’ve stopped
‘forcing it’, but instead trying to ‘allow it to happen’.
As you can see, Geoffrey did not just wait for something to happen, he was contemplating – just for an example
on – altruism, on the nature of a PCE and on self-immolation. He was
*intentioned*, with pure intent, to figure out how to get ready to “allowing it”.
I guess you have not read this part thoroughly or have not sufficiently understood the implications. Here are
Richard’s/ Dona’s suggestions on how you can get ready to “allowing
it” to happen in an active and participatory way –
Geoffrey: 4. If so I have to ask once more the question you must be tired
to hear: how do I get ready?
Dona: again, there are no conditions, you are ready when
you are ready.
Then in the meantime... (Lol... You know the answer...) ... Yep, the actualism method.
Though Richard and Vineeto understand that you want a “formula” (Dona sidenote: so do I!)
... There is none. Everyone is different and has their own way.
There are things that Vineeto suggested that she did ... But ... they are NOT to be considered “conditions”.
Know yourself (Dona: I recommend using the website for ideas on that).
Find all the objections to self-immolation (goes with the first one, know yourself).
Imitate the actual world as much as humanly possible.
Make it your number one aim/ goal/ intent.
Allow it to happen (no forcing it).
When you have put all the above suggestions and more into practice and feel really excellent most of the
time, figure out any objections you might have (and presently you have some why else did you have to force it), and have made becoming free your number one aim in life then
perhaps you have a different result when “allowing it to happen”.
Cheers Vineeto
August 30, 2024
JAMES: I don’t want it like a drowning man wants air. I never have. My objections are I
don’t know how and I can’t. It is my belief that I can't. It is my belief that I can’t.
VINEETO: Hi James,
Let me represent what Richard has answered to a similar question of yours 25 years ago –
JAMES: My question is: Can I permanently disappear the ‘I’ and the ‘me’?
RICHARD: Speaking personally, I did not ‘permanently disappear the ‘I’ and the ‘me’’ ... it was the
identity that did all the work. Who you think and feel and instinctively ‘know’ yourself to be has a job to do: When ‘I’ willingly
self-immolate – psychologically and psychically – then ‘I’ am making the most noble sacrifice that ‘I’ can make for oneself and all
humankind ... for ‘I’ am what ‘I’ hold most dear. It is ‘my’ moment of glory. It is ‘my’ crowning achievement ... it makes ‘my’
petty life all worth while. It is not an event to be missed ... to physically die without having experienced what it is like to become dead is such
a waste of a life.
There is an intrinsic trait common to all sentient beings: self-sacrifice.
(Richard, List B, James, 24 September 1999)
I saw a few weeks ago that you have already made cremation arrangements – what have you got to lose?
Nothing to lose but a belief ... and so much to gain!
Cheers Vineeto
September 22, 2024
JAMES: In reviewing this thread I see that
it is the identity itself (‘I’) that makes the self – sacrifice for oneself and all humankind :
RICHARD: Speaking personally, I did
not ‘permanently disappear the ‘I’ and the ‘me’’ … it was the identity that did all the work. Who you
think and feel and instinctively ‘know’ yourself to be has a job to do: When ‘I’ willingly self-immolate –
psychologically and psychically – then ‘I’ am making the most noble sacrifice that ‘I’ can make for oneself
and all humankind … for ‘I’ am what ‘I’ hold most dear. It is ‘my’ moment of glory. It is ‘my’
crowning achievement … it makes ‘my’ petty life all worth while. It is not an event to be missed … to
physically die without having experienced what it is like to become dead is such a waste of a life.
There is an intrinsic trait common to all sentient beings: self-sacrifice. (Richard, List B, James, 24 September 1999)
JAMES: So ‘I’ am not only doing this for myself but for this body, that body and everybody.
This is most definitely worth dying for.
Is it the guardian that is stopping me?
*
JAMES: I have decided to end myself with myself. I understand now. ‘I’ am the only one that can
end ‘I’. Writing the note to myself above did the trick.
VINEETO: Hi James,
It is not only the ‘guardian’, aka the social identity, but your whole ‘being’ (both social
identity and the instinctual passions and their resultant feelings) which are “stopping” you.
Richard described it well in a message in 2002 too you, which Geoffrey told me he recommends as
essential for reading and comprehending to anyone who wants his advice to becoming actually free –
RICHARD: Okay ... I will come at it from another direction then:
the bottom line of ‘me’ is suffering (obviously there are times when ‘I’ feel happy, when ‘I’ feel glad,
when ‘I’ feel cheerful and so on but whenever those moments pass ‘I’ inevitably revert to ‘my’ default setting).
So, essentially ‘I’ am suffering and, as ‘I’ am addicted to being
‘me’ and being ‘me’ is suffering, ‘I’ am addicted to suffering ... it is ‘my’ very nature. What you
are (presumably) experiencing right now is ‘me’ as ‘I’ really am when all of the external causes of
happiness, gladness, cheerfulness and so on are stripped away ... and of course ‘I’ want to ‘play some more now’
because ‘I’ do not like being ‘me’.
Yet, perversely, ‘I’ am addicted to being ‘me’ ... and it is this
addiction which is why there is no peace on earth.
(Richard, List B, James, 24 October 1999)
It requires diligent, and if needed experiential, attention to any feeling which might diminish
your feeling good/feeling excellent, and thus would stand in the way as an objection to the ending of ‘you’. Again a
reminder that ‘you’ cannot end ‘yourself'. What ‘you’ can do is give permission, *with your whole being*, to allow
pure intent to have it happen.
This is not a mental/intellectual command you give yourself but both an existential (all of
‘you’) and joyous acquiescence to allow the universe to live you, irrevocably.
Deeply appreciating every step of the way is the clue that you are on the right track.
Cheers Vineeto
September 23, 2024
VINEETO: Hi James,
You have essentially summed up most of it correctly.
JAMES: Thanks V for clarifying exactly what ‘the guardian’ is which is the whole ‘being’
including the social identity and the instinctual passions.
VINEETO: Correction – the guardian is another word for the social identity only.
‘Being’ consists of the instinctual passions and the feelings arising from them, which form the
core of your identity.
JAMES: “I have to give permission with my whole being to allow pure intent to have
it happen by allowing the universe to live me.”
VINEETO: “Allowing the universe to live you” is an essential part of the
understanding so you are aware what *it* means in the last part of the sentence (“to have it happen”).
Then change “I *have* to give permission” to “I am drawn forward by pure
intent so that I cannot help but joyously give permission ...”
Again – enjoying and appreciating is the key.
Cheers Vineeto
September 24, 2024
JAMES: correction: “I am drawn forward by pure intent to
gladly allow the universe to live me to have af happen.”
Does this sound exactly right?
VINEETO: Hi @James,
No, it does not “sound exactly right”.
The very fact that you have replaced my phrase of ‘allowing the universe to live me’
with the acronym “af” speaks of a distancing yourself from, and thus watering down (i.e. depreciating), the very quality
and magnificence of your ultimate goal. Instead of trying to be more “succinct” (i.e. minimalistic
and economical), what is required now is to contemplate at length and in overwhelming depth what your aim actually
entails -- to altruistically and willingly abandon what you hold as the most precious thing 'you' are, ‘your self’,
in order to be able to leave the 'real' world behind and come into the actual world.
Your phrasing “to have af happen” does in no way represent an actual freedom
from the human condition, not in those words and hence not in your mind/consciousness.
An actual freedom from the human condition means living the “magical
perfection of the purity of this infinite and eternal universe twenty-four hours a day” and experiencing
“the purity of life” which “emerges from the perfection that wells
up constantly due to in immense stillness which is utterly immense in its scope and magnitude.”
(quotes from Richard's Journal, Article
Twenty-five).
Without a full acknowledgment, a presentiated awareness and a deep appreciation of what you are
aiming for, how can you possibly invite and experience pure intent (as described by Richard above) to guide you, to
draw you forth, to immerse you in the sweetness and tenderness, which are the qualities of this utterly benignant
universe, and to ultimately seduce you to let go, to give up, to abandon what ‘you’ presently hold most dear?
As Richard said in the same Article “One has to be daring
enough to live it …”
Regards Vineeto
September 25, 2024
JAMES: Thanks for speaking frankly which is what I need. [...]
I appreciate your help and I know that you can assist me in getting to where I need to go.
JAMES: Objections to experiencing pure intent:
Pain and pain meds interfering. Loss of love to and from ex-wife and no one left. Its been too
long. Old age. Sadness. Don’t know how. Realizing that my life is nearing the end.
VINEETO: Hi James,
Here is something that even with no connection to pure intent you will be able to do. Acknowledge the fact that death
is inevitable, that pain and old age are part of life and especially part of your present condition.
These are facts of life; you can do nothing about them.
What you can do however, when you have some common sense and if you so choose, you can stop
objecting to those facts and also you can recognize and give up the life-long habit of resentment to such facts of
life.
Resentment is what turns physical pain into suffering and realizing the nearing of death into
anger and fear.
You can do yourself a favour, and recognize and abandon this habitual resentment. You can also,
of course, stay as you are and keep suffering. The choice is in your hands and actualism gives you that choice.
Richard: Aye ... this is something I come across almost on a daily basis and it is amazing
how many people tell me that I am being ‘optimistic’, or ‘positive’, or ‘up-beat’, or that I am ‘forever
trying to talk things up’. For example, I might comment upon what a great day it is and, as sure as eggs are eggs,
the plighted person will find fault (even if only ‘it won’t last’) ... or I may say how marvellous it is to be
living in a technologically advanced society (take contemporary surgical procedures, for instance, or current dental
practice) and a whole litany of doom and gloom comes forth.
Even sitting at a caff by myself, with snippets of nearby conversations drifting by from
time-to-time, it is remarkable how much of the content of social chit-chat is, as you say, gripe, grievance,
complaint, and resentment ... and the last-named is the key to it all (the basic resentment of being alive in the
first place).
Until one wakes up to implications and ramifications of the factuality of already being here on
this planet earth anyway, whether one wants to be or not (‘I didn’t ask to be born’), one is fated to forever
seek consolation and commiseration in the arms (both metaphorically and literally) of another similarly afflicted.
Yet the simple fact is that, despite the ‘I didn’t ask to be born’ rhetoric, one does want to be alive (else
one would have committed suicide long ago) and all that it takes is to fully acknowledge this and thus unequivocally
say !YES! to being here now as this flesh and blood body ... and this affirmation is an unconditional
agreement/approval of life itself as-it-is.
I did not ask to be born either (truisms can be so trite) ... but I am ever-so-glad that I was.
(Richard, Actual Freedom list, Gary, 24Jun03)
Cheers Vineeto
October 12 2024
JAMES: Something has shifted for me recently and I am rereading messages you have written
to me and seeing them anew. I just reread this message above that I am replying to and it really hit home. This part
for example:
Vineeto: “Here is something that even with no connection to pure intent you will be able to
do. Acknowledge the fact that death is inevitable, that pain and old age are part of life and especially part of your
present condition.”
The whole message is gold which I didn’t see before. I finally got it: “Acknowledge the
fact and stop objecting to those facts.”
I’m still looking at what you said about resentment. I don’t really see my resentment. At
least not yet.
VINEETO: Hi James,
You say you don’t really see your resentment if there is any. Richard usually refers to people’s
basic resentment like this –
[Richard]: “I located and identified that basic resentment that all people that I have spoken to
have. To wit: ‘I didn’t ask to be born!’” (Richard, Actual Freedom List, Irene, 11 October
1998)
There is more correspondence collected here (Richard, Selected Correspondence, Resentment)
Perhaps you don’t have that kind of resentment anymore but there could be minor resentments,
possibly resentment about being in pain?
I know from ‘Vineeto’s’ experience that when there was pain there was also an objection/a
fear of/a disapproval of feeling this pain. Once ‘Vineeto’ discovered that (and it took her a while), ‘she’
could make the deliberate choice to decline this disapproval or resentment of this particular ongoing pain (monthly
cramps for instance) and the intensity of it diminished almost instantly to at least half.
I wrote about this to you before – (14.7.2024) and
(25.9.2024)
Perhaps it is no longer an issue?
Cheers Vineeto
October 14 2024
JAMES: The resentment I had toward you early on was related to my
father. I resented him because he was authoritative and I resented you because I perceived you as being authoritative
like he was. I don’t have any resentment toward you now.
I don’t have any resentment about being born now. I might have had that when I was younger.
VINEETO: Hi James,
This is excellent to hear.
JAMES: Wow Vineeto, I am listening to you like never before and
something is happening. I’m not sure what yet but right now my pain is gone and I haven’t taken my pain meds yet.
I feel like I have opened up to a new reality. I am finally really getting what you are saying.
VINEETO: With this new way of reading and listening you might be interesting to re-read
Richard’s potent message to Rick from a few years ago which I think fits your present situation quite well –
RICK: I am tempted to tamper with this ‘rapid (and
sudden) way to actual freedom’ despite your warning.
RICHARD: With the absolute certainty/ total absence of choice of the PCE the invocation of
destiny (oblivion/ extinction) is the deadly simple and fascinated contemplation of the fact that, as physical death is the end of ‘being’ anyway, it might as
well happen sooner rather than later. (The oblivion/ extinction of ‘being’ at physical death is entirely without benefit in regards
peace-on-earth whereas the oblivion/ extinction of ‘being’ at this moment in time is entirely beneficial to the host body and of a facilitatory
benefit to all other bodies).
The fascinated contemplation – ‘fascinated’ as in a moth to a flame – morphs into a pure contemplation (as in an
apperceptivity) upon it becoming startlingly apparent as an experiential actuality that this moment in time has no duration.
What this means, to an identity for whom time moves (as in past/ present/ future), is that the keep-it-safe extinction of ‘being’
(cunningly projected into some future moment) will be happening now when it does take place. (Time has no duration in actuality; now, being
eternal, is already always dynamic in that everything happens now; nothing ever happens in past/ present/ future time).
As now is the way, then now is the means; as now is the means, then now is the end ... !Bingo! ... it is no longer possible to
distinguish between life being lived and life doing the living as any such cause and effect has vanished without a trace (it never was anyway as
time, as in past/ present/ future, has no existence in actuality).
This is ‘my’ moment of glory; this is ‘my’ crowning achievement; this makes ‘my’ petty life all worthwhile; this
is ‘my’ most noble sacrifice[1] for ‘I’ am what ‘I’
hold most dear; this is ‘my’ legacy for all humankind; ‘my’ reward is to go blessedly into the oblivion ‘I’ have secretly craved all along.
‘My’ extinction made all this possible.
Regards, Richard.
P.S.: The key-word is: inevitability. (Richard, List D, Rick, 3 December 2009).
[1] ‘Voluntary ‘self’-sacrifice means an altruistic
offering, a philanthropic contribution, a generous gift, a charitable donation, a magnanimous present; to devote and
give over one’s being as a humane gratuity, an open-handed endowment, a munificent bequest, a kind-hearted benefaction.
A sacrifice is the relinquishment of something valued or desired for the sake of something more important or worthy
… it is the deliberate abandonment, relinquishment, forfeiture or loss for the sake of something illustrious,
brilliant, extraordinary and excellent.
It means to forgo, quit, vacate, discontinue, stop, cease or immolate so that one’s guerdon is to be able to be
unrepressed, unconstrained, unselfconscious, uninhibited, unrestrained, unrestricted, uncontrolled, uncurbed,
unchecked, unbridled, candid, outspoken, spontaneous, relaxed, informal, open, free and easy.
As I have remarked before, ‘I’ go out in a blaze of glory’. (Richard, List B, No. 33c, 26 June 2000).
Cheers Vineeto
October 15 2024
JAMES: Do I need to be attuned to pure intent for
it (immolation) to happen?
VINEETO: Hi James,
Definitely. You will need a reliable connection via the golden clew connected to
your Pure Consciousness Experience and as such to pure intent in order not to end up in some strange Altered State of
any description. For example: Hypomania/ Actuality-Mimicking ASC (Abditorium, Hypomania)
Richard: It is more than a trifle odd for someone who self-describes, publicly, on the
same day as this recording (i.e., 22 Jan 2016 in Message № 21740) as being’out
from control’ as per actualism lingo – as well as writing of having an ’extensive
experience’ of pure consciousness experiences (PCE’s), of having an ’extensive knowledge’ of
the actual freedom writings, of having ’spoken extensively’ with Richard, and of being
thus ’well prepared’ for the ‘Intimate Ambience Experiment’ which these recordings are a
product of – to not have a current-time awareness of how they are experiencing this moment of being alive, each
moment again, when the primary descriptors of being out-from-control is that it is of the nature of either an
ongoing, and thus constantly dynamic, excellence experience (EE) or a similarly dynamic intimacy experience (IE).
In other words, someone genuinely out-from-control is constantly (i.e., consistently) ‘feeling excellent’,
come-what-may, by the very nature of what that term refers to.
Secondly, needing to pause so as to consider the above ’how are you feeling’ question reveals a
current-time lack of awareness as to how the protagonist being thus queried is experiencing this moment of being
alive, each moment again, regardless of whatever that experiencing might actually be.
Thirdly, for the protagonist to say they are ’probably’ feeling
whatever that experiencing might be indicates a distinct lack of ‘hands-on’ application of asking oneself ‘how
am I experiencing this moment of being alive’ (i.e., such as to have it become ‘second-nature’ to be wordlessly
aware, each moment again, just whereabouts on the entire affective scale one’s moment-to-moment experiencing is
currently taking place).
Furthermore, as feeling better than ‘feeling excellent’ implies ‘feeling
perfect’, it is pertinent to note how a scant four minutes later (at the 07:55 minute mark below) the protagonist
voluntarily provides a report of ’feeling better now’ – i.e., feeling better than
[quote] ’probably excellent, yeah’ [endquote], that is – yet a mere seven minutes thereafter
(at the 14:53 minute mark further below) there is the unsolicited report of ’feeling really good again’ (which
indicates a more accurate response to the above ’how are you feeling’ question would be one of a
‘not feeling really good’ nature).
Now, as the primary descriptors of being out-from-control is of it being in the
nature of either a constantly/ consistently dynamic EE or IE then to be ‘not feeling really good’ of course
implies ‘not being out-from-control’ at all.
Moreover, as ‘not being out-from-control’ also implies ‘not having a
near-actual caring’ either the real question is: just what state of being is it, then, which the protagonist is
currently experiencing?
A possible clue is to be found in a post from twelve days ago. (12 Jan 2016; Message № 21544).
Viz.:
• [Alan]:’… given my history, I would definitely qualify as bipolar were I to
place myself in the hands of the ‘sane’ psychiatrists (…)’.[endquote].
Now, whilst most certainly not being in the business of making amateurish psychiatric diagnoses
– and especially not via email and chat message information – I do have more than a passing familiarity with both
the hypomanic and manic phases characteristic of what is nowadays classified under some form of Bipolar Affective
Disorder (BAD) through having lived with a woman of a hyperthymic temperament (hyperthymia as distinct from
euthymia), for over a decade, plus interacting with more than a few persons officially diagnosed bipolar (a.k.a. ‘manic-depressive’)
and, thus, under specialist treatment.
Thus I do know it is possible to slip into a hypomanic state whilst illuding oneself that it
fits the criterion for ‘out-from-control’ as per actualism lingo – and I especially know this via gradually
talking a person so afflicted back out of it over time – and one of the hallmarks is the initial difficulty in ‘reaching’
such a person (they are ‘out of reach’ of normal discourse) due to the certitude such a state imbues.
And therein lies the clue: the certitude of hypomania is no match for the certainty of the
out-from-control way of being due to the latter being fuelled by pure intent (i.e., by actuality) – the former
being a relatively mild delusory state born of the illusion of ‘being’ of course – and it was usually via
appealing to the self-evident purity and perfection of the PCE that I could begin the process of successfully talking
a person so afflicted back out it.
(In my experience a person in the manic phase of bipolar is unreachable, period, and it is only
through that most-unfortunate state wearing-off, of its own accord (with or without medication), that normal
discourse may recommence).
Incidentally, as there are warnings aplenty on The Actual Freedom Trust web site – about the
likely danger of veering off into altered states (either of the spiritual or psychiatric variety) when one ventures
beyond the norm ill-prepared – I have retired from talking any such person back out of those cul-de-sacs. (Richard, List D,
Claudiu4, 24 January 2016, hypomanic).
Cheers Vineeto
October 15 2024
JAMES: Understood, I do have a memory of a pce with pure intent and of a golden clew
connecting me to it. I will contemplate on reconnecting to pure intent via this golden clew.
VINEETO: Hi James,
Now wouldn’t it be more advantageous to make a connection with pure intent and have this connection be permanent?
It is such a sweet, tender and continuously uplifting experience to experience pure intent on a
permanent basis, and it will guide you securely to the next step you need to take.
Cheers Vineeto
October 15 2024
JAMES: Feeling good, enjoying and appreciating.
Coming close to pure intent by remembering the purity of my last pce. Not quite there yet. It’s like a peacefulness
that’s readily available just a step away from pure intent. I am quite sure that pure intent is attainable.
VINEETO: Hi James,
Yes, this is the moment – the moment you have been waiting for, your number one aim in your life … the moment to
all the pure intent to bring all of you on board and allow the magic to happen.
You can give the permission now, with your whole being, give permission to allow pure intent to draw you forth.
What a marvellous time we are living in.
Cheers Vineeto
October 20 2024
JAMES: Been experiencing increased enjoyment, appreciation and
perfection. Still no pure intent yet. Not sure how to “give permission ‘with my whole being’ to allow pure
intent to draw me forth.”
VINEETO: Hi James,
It’s great to hear that “enjoyment, appreciation and perfection” are increasing.
Can you rememorate your last PCE? That’s where you find pure intent. The memory of a pure
consciousness experience is your guiding light – it shows you what is possible when the ‘self’
disappears. Only when you can tune into pure intent will you be able to give permission to draw you forth.
In the meantime, you continue to experience and increase “enjoyment, appreciation and perfection” as much as possible.
JAMES: What exactly does “with my whole being” mean?
VINEETO: It means that there is not a single objection “to step out of the real world
into this actual world and leave ‘yourself’ behind where ‘you’ belong”.
Again, I ask you – what do you have to lose? You know with certainty that you will physically
die. Why not give permission to “leave ‘yourself’ behind” before you physically die. Richard
used to ask himself, what am I saving ‘myself’ for? There is nothing you can take with you when you die. You have
literally nothing to lose but your affective identity and what you can gain is immense. As Richard put it –
[Richard]: “This is ‘my’ moment of glory; this is ‘my’ crowning achievement; this
makes ‘my’ petty life all worthwhile; this is ‘my’ most noble sacrifice for ‘I’ am what ‘I’ hold
most dear; this is ‘my’ legacy for all humankind; ‘my’ reward is to go blessedly into the oblivion ‘I’
have secretly craved all along.
‘My’ extinction made all this possible.
Regards, Richard.
P.S.: The key-word is: inevitability.” (Richard, List D, Rick, 3 December 2009)
Cheers Vineeto
October 20 2024
JAMES: Yes, I can remember my last PCE. I remember the purity of it which
was stunning. It was so clear and so pure. I seem close to it right now.
[Vineeto]: “Only when you can tune into pure intent will you be able to give permission to draw you forth.”
What exactly do you mean by “draw you forth”?
I do see that what you mean that “with my whole being” means when there is not a single
objection left to stepping out of the real world into the actual world.
It also makes sense that I have nothing to lose but my affective identity.
I am in a perfect place to allow this to happen. I have nothing to lose but my ‘self’. I see that
all I have to do is give myself permission. This is absolutely doable.
I do see that it is inevitable now. Pure intent is inevitable.
VINEETO: Hi James,
Excellent.
“Pure intent drawing you forth” means you are so attracted by the sweetness and tenderness
of pure intent that you can’t and don’t want to resist.
Enjoy.
Cheers Vineeto
October 23 2024
JAMES: Do you have to have a PCE to tap in to pure intent?
VINEETO: Hi James,
I found where Richard gave an answer to this very same question on you posed to him on 7 February 2012 -
RESPONDENT:
[Richard]: [...] that ‘over-arching benevolence and benignity’ [...] was also accessible
at-a-distance (hence the thirty-day trial at that time), as a rather remarkable man on another continent has amply demonstrated, and has been
described by him upon meeting in person as a ‘gentle energy’ and a ‘harmless energy’ which is ‘emanating all around (not directional,
like a guru to a devotee, and not at all gross)’.
‘At a distance’. You can’t mean that India is ‘at a distance’ from the universe so what do
you mean?
RICHARD: G’day No. 23, What I mean is exactly what I wrote in the email you isolated that above text from.
Viz.:
[Richard]: ‘(...) that ‘over-arching benevolence and benignity’, which the feeling-being inhabiting this flesh-and-blood
body all those years ago experienced and named ‘pure intent’, became directly accessible to some select associates during a specific
situational setting called ‘The Second Convivium Gathering’, in late 2009/ early 2010, and was variously experienced by them as a ‘palpable
sweetness’, for instance, and an ‘infinite tenderness’, for example, and has been more generally described as ‘being bathed in intimacy’.
It was also accessible at-a-distance (hence the thirty-day trial at that time), as a rather remarkable man on another continent has amply
demonstrated (...)’. (Richard, List D, No. 17, 4 February 2012).
My words ‘on another continent’ refer to different continent than the one on which the specific situational setting called
‘The Second Convivium Gathering’ took place in late 2009/ early 2010.
RESPONDENT: You make like the ‘over-arching benevolence and benignity’ is actually coming
from *you* ...
RICHARD: I did not [quote] ‘make like’ [endquote] anything; what I wrote about, in that email you isolated that
(now further above) text from, is precisely in accord with what those opening words of mine to No. 17 readily convey. Viz.:
[Richard]: ‘My response (above) was both in the context of your query as to whether a PCE is necessary for pure intent and
your follow-up explanation to John about the last paragraph of ‘Addendum No. 7’ (that to be actually free from the human condition is to be
that pure intent)’. (Richard, List D, No. 17, 6 February 2012).
And the operative words in the last paragraph of that ‘Addendum No. 7’ which No. 17 quoted in his follow-up
explanation to No. 24 (Message No. 10xxx) are as follows. Viz.:
[quote]: ‘(...) to be actually free from the human condition is to be that pure intent ... as in, to
be that benevolence and benignity *as a flesh-and-blood body only*’. [emphasis in original]. (Latest Announcement, Addendum 6).
RESPONDENT: ... which would mean that it *is* directional ...
RICHARD: First and foremost: what part of the words [quote] ‘emanating all around’ [endquote] is it that you derive
the meaning that it is directional from?
Second, are you proposing that at 3:15 AM (IST) on the 4th of January, 2010, I paused in what I was doing and
turned so as to zero in on ultra-precise map co-ordinates – and such precision is called for as there may very well still have been another person sleeping on
the other side of the bed – and zapped that (otherwise) rather remarkable man, smack dead centre, with a liberating bolt of pure intent?
Lastly, in such a scenario as that in what way would this man thus be considered rather remarkable?
Ha ... this is all such fun, eh?
Regards, Richard. (Richard, List D, No. 23, 7 February 2012).
And to leave no doubt about the exact nature of pure intent -
[Richard]: Also, here is a hint for future reading: the word pure, in the phrase pure intent,
indicates to a puzzling-it-out-reader that whatever it is which the word intent refers to one thing is for sure: it
cannot be affective (else it be not pure). (Richard, List D Jonathan, 16 February 2014).
Cheers Vineeto
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