(List D refers to Richard’s List D Vineeto’s Correspondence with Kuba on Discuss Actualism Forum VINEETO: I am immensely pleased that you discovered “some kind of a resistance coming from ‘me’ because it is this “resistance” which is fuelling the weirdness. KUBA: Yes I can see this clearly now, before it seems ‘I’ had split ‘myself’ off somewhat, in that there was ‘me’ wanting to proceed and then the “weirdness” appeared to be something other than ‘me’ that was blocking ‘me’, and yet this “weirdness” is being generated by ‘me’, that resistance is ‘me’. Essentially there is some part of ‘me’ that is working overtime to sustain this drama, to stop ‘me’ from proceeding where ‘I’ wish to go. Catching onto the absurdity of this whole thing yesterday did something, because why would ‘I’ fight where pure intent is pulling ‘me’ when that is exactly what ‘I’ yearn for. I remember Peter writing that ‘I’ am a passionate protector of absolutely nothing at all, it’s a bit like that. It seems there must be something that ‘I’ am still hiding though, something that ‘I’ am
prepared to continue suffering for in order to keep it hidden. It feels as if pure intent is exposing ‘my’ best
kept secret and ‘I’ am not ready for it to be divulged. That if it is to be exposed ‘I’ will be left so
vulnerable and open to the world that ‘I’ will not be able to function. VINEETO: Hi Kuba, It’s worse than that – ‘your’ secret is that ‘you’ do not exist in actuality. And you already know it, hence the hesitancy to admit it. KUBA: But there is this other component to it, of why ‘I’ am always inclined to ‘do’ something, it is this deep feeling/belief that it is not enough to be me as-I-am. It’s interesting because I left school about 13 years ago and yet still to this day I have the same recurring dream of being back. When I moved from Poland to England at 12 it was a big shock for me, so much so that I completely shut myself off from everybody, for years I would not speak any more than a yes/no and I had absolutely no friends or social life of any description. The way I eventually climbed out of this hole was by getting into sports and “buying my way” into ‘being normal’ with achievements. But it seems this left a very deep and lasting impression on ‘me’. This sense that ‘I’ absolutely cannot exist without being ‘someone in particular’ with ‘something to offer’. VINEETO: It doesn’t really matter, why – not a single person likes to be a nobody – and yet it is soo delicious. KUBA: You wrote the other day if ‘I’ could give a guarantee that if ‘my’ question was resolved to ‘my’ satisfaction that ‘I’ would give ‘myself’ up there and then. It looks to me that whatever the root of this resistance is (and I am not yet sure what it is), it has the capacity to do that exactly. VINEETO: The root of the resistance are your very survival instincts – ‘you’ don’t want to go extinct, despite ‘your’ yearning for oblivion. It’s very understandable but by your own reporting you can hardly maintain yourself any longer.
* VINEETO: What a fascinating thrilling time you are having, traversing “this “desert of monumental proportions” and yet knowing with utter certainty that you are “proceeding towards my destiny”, and that there is “absolutely nothing in that direction to go back to”. Reading all this I was wondering if you perhaps are deeply influenced by these particular descriptions of Richard’s Journal – he was after all drawing from his experience of coming out of Spiritual Enlightenment /institutionalized insanity – such that they are what is now happening to you, especially as you also noticed that “it can switch (and yo-yo) in a matter of seconds – where now all of a sudden it’s as if none of that ever happened, and back and forth like that.” KUBA: Yes I am most likely deeply influenced by these descriptions but I wonder now if I have somewhat appropriated this drama in order to justify/ validate this resistance. That there is clearly something in ‘me’ that is not yet fully ready to proceed and so ‘I’ can make it seem legitimate by framing it in line with those descriptions. Which if this is the case that is great news haha, because it means it can be way easier than ‘I’ have been making it! VINEETO: Ah, that’s what I was thinking. KUBA: But I cannot seem to shake this sense that it is to do with this deep fear of it not being enough to be me as-I-am. I remember watching one of the DVDs and a woman (I think Pamela or Grace) mentions how Richard would sit and look out the window for hours – this was like ‘my’ worst nightmare. How could ‘I’ spend all that time and not ‘do’ something or ‘be’ someone, ‘my’ whole being would resist this. VINEETO: I can understand that but this worry, as I said before, is beyond ‘your’ territory and a distraction. Remember what children get up to when they don’t want to go to bed? ‘You’ don’t want to go extinct. * VINEETO: ‘Vineeto’ deeply felt it many times in ‘her’ life, from the first moment when ‘she’ fell unconscious (due to low blood-pressure at the time). There was something so sweet, so enticing, so attractive, in those seconds before unconsciousness set in and similar in following events KUBA: Yes that is interesting because I have had the same experience when for example I have been weight lifting heavy and would go light headed, it was obviously not a PCE and yet there was something so delicious in ‘me’ getting to disappear for a bit and yet the awareness of being alive continuing. VINEETO: So you know this delicious feeling of taking a rest of ‘me’ … you can lean into that, that’s really what ‘I’ want, have a rest forever … KUBA: [Edit] It seems those stories of it not being enough to be me as-I-am are furphies. VINEETO: Ha, I am glad you can see that. KUBA: Funnily enough yesterday I was watching a TV show with Sonya and I was amazed by 1 particular scene, it was nothing to do with what was going on in the story but rather it was the sunlight reflecting off the waves in the ocean, it looked like a sheet of sparkling gold covering the top of the water, it was so delicious to take it all in. This gives some slight answer as to how Richard could sit and look out the window for hours. It is more that ‘I’ feel ‘I’ am not allowed to do that (even though it is ‘my’ deepest desire to live like that), that some unspoken but apparently very important task has to be done instead. That continuing to be ‘me’ takes precedence over such delight and wonder. VINEETO: I am amazed you are still so gullible whenever the ever-diminishing identity suggests something not only against common sense but also directly contrary to the actualism method (enjoying and appreciating). It’s cute, isn’t it! KUBA: The below is perhaps the most wonderful description that I can think of, this is what ‘I’ desire and yet it is so weird that clearly something in ‘me’ is resisting the possibility of living this:
VINEETO: Yes, I remember experiencing this, such an amazing experience – the discovering of this magical wonderland – that was right after my guardian had abdicated and I was home free. [Edit]: Actually, it was the description after I became fully actually free. KUBA: Weirdly enough ‘I’ am extremely optimistic about it being possible now… Even though clearly ‘I’ do not yet know the way forward. Because now I see that there is something that ‘I’ am doing/ being which prevents it from happening, which means this “something” can be uncovered! So in short rather than soldiering through this “desert of monumental proportions”
‘I’ can continue allowing this ‘process’ and locate the root of the resistance – of what is keeping
‘me’ from allowing ‘my’ deeply yearned for oblivion, meanwhile avoiding getting drawn into any side mission
(which I have just averted this morning haha). VINEETO: Ah, I am glad you decided not to follow the ‘dutiful’ suggestion of your ‘controller’/ ‘feeler’ – they are up to no good. KUBA: Ok so I see that at this point anything other than giving ‘myself’ permission to
allow it to happen is a side mission! VINEETO: Bullseye! VINEETO: I am amazed you are still so gullible whenever the ever-diminishing identity suggests something not only against common sense but also directly contrary to the actualism method (enjoying and appreciating). It’s cute, isn’t it! KUBA: Yes I fell for it again! Except this time I smelled a rat pretty quick. When I wrote those furphies out – and as gullible as I can be – even I wasn’t sold. VINEETO: Hi Kuba, Isn’t it such fun! KUBA: But it was reading back over the below which made it click:
VINEETO: Just to put your mind at rest – Richard did many other things in his actually free life apart from sitting looking “out the window for hours”.
KUBA: I tried to find this someone/ something who is apparently not allowing me and then I realised that I have already abandoned ‘humanity’. So then it became clear… it is ‘my’ very survival instincts aka ‘me’ at the core of ‘my’ being that is the resistance, hence – “so I see that at this point anything other than giving ‘myself’ permission to allow it to happen is a side mission!” And what an amazing thing to discover this is! VINEETO: Yes it is a wonderful discovery and possibly ‘your’ last. ‘You’ no longer will have to justify ‘your’ fictious existence. KUBA: Indeed ‘I’ have been gullible all ‘my’ life, not only in believing in the authority of ‘human wisdom’ but in believing that the human condition is set in stone. I wrote in the past that ‘I’ am a coward, but actually I think it was the gullibility that came first ‘I’ was a coward because ‘I’ fell hook, line and sinker for those beliefs in the first place. VINEETO: Before you accuse your ‘self’ of even more flaws, let me remind you that children are gullible by necessity because of the preset conditions they are born into without a handbook (or reading skills) to start off with. They have to believe what they are told. It is an amazing feat to slowly extract oneself from this legacy of genetically endowed instinctual passions and feelings and the passed-on ‘wisdom’ of those who came before, and be able to sort out silly and sensible and even more so to become increasingly happy and harmless. KUBA: All along there was no-one at all stopping ‘me’ from setting ‘myself’ free, of dropping the burden that is ‘being’ itself. ‘I’ am the one (and only one) to allow ‘myself’ to go blessedly into oblivion. And ‘I’ already know without a shadow of a doubt that the world will be all the better for it. VINEETO: Indeed, after all the frightening, thrilling and daring experiences, in the end you find out that there is “no-one at all stopping ‘me’ from setting ‘myself’ free” – isn’t that in itself a hilarious proof of the benevolence of the universe and the beneficence of the human consciousness, which enables such revelation. KUBA: I remember you wrote to me a while ago asking (to the effect
of) – can you hear it yet? Indeed ‘I’ can now hear the sound of ‘my’ extinction approaching. VINEETO: I found it –
Yes, I can hear it too and this is wonderful to say the least. * KUBA: I wonder is the “secret” to do with the fact that ‘I’ am a fraud, and ‘I’ have always been a fraud. Because this rawness feels like this, it’s as if ‘I’ am going out to the world and screaming ‘my’ deepest secrets for everyone to know, and then ‘I’ just stand there with nowhere to hide. VINEETO: It’s worse than that – ‘your’ secret is that ‘you’ do not exist in actuality. And you already know it, hence the hesitancy to admit it. KUBA: Lol no wonder it was more of a comedy than a drama for Geoffrey, and why the business of becoming actually free is not a serious business at all. All this over ‘someone’ that does not exist in actuality. VINEETO: In the end when ‘you’ can see the fact, it’s always hilarious, but it can nevertheless feel very serious while one is trying to make sense of this strange and sometimes absurd situation all humans find themselves in. KUBA: I can see what Richard meant when he wrote in his journal:
VINEETO: So now, that you know the secret – and have it confirmed by those who have left their ‘self’ behind – how long are you planning to hold out in no-man’s land against the overwhelming evidence, not to mention already hearing “the bells of joyous anticipation and celebration ringing”? Ah, what a joy! VINEETO: So now, that you know the secret – and have it confirmed by those who have left their ‘self’ behind – how long are you planning to hold out in no-man’s land against the overwhelming evidence, not to mention already hearing “the bells of joyous anticipation and celebration ringing”? KUBA: Haha well that is precisely on point, ‘I’ am just holding out in no man’s land at this point. Driving to work last night I thought exactly that, I found ‘myself’ so far away from ‘home’, a bit like those sci-fi movies where the characters leave for some far away planet, but I had not landed in terra Actualis yet either. The fear or weirdness didn’t play much part though, it was more like "wow I have not been this far out yet". For the first time there was this organic courage to proceed, it was thrilling. Because now having abandoned ‘humanity’ there was ‘no-one’ to go back to and ‘no-one’ to stop ‘me’ proceeding. So then ‘I’ was completely on ‘my’ own but not alone, it was quite incredible because it was as if I had finally located some semblance of individuality/ autonomy. I was happy to stand on my own two feet and to proceed on my own, finally I was proceeding like a pioneer! I thought about the fact that there are currently only a dozen or so people on this planet that live in this place where I am proceeding, how odd! This new land is rather unpopulated so far. But those individuals living there, they are exactly that – individuals. It is amazing to begin to locate a genuine individuality. I thought about you Vineeto that you actually do exist in this place where I am proceeding, where you are – “as if living naked in the wilderness, utterly on my own and undeniably undefined by either people or events”. I thought how you have been inviting us to join the party. That there is nothing to lose but ‘my’ shackles, this
makes a lot more sense now experientially, it seems very close indeed – as Richard wrote “so close as to be
already here”. VINEETO: Hi Kuba, “So close as to be already here” … it looks like you are now savouring the
ever-increasing splendour of ‘your’ approaching “blaze of glory” Here is what I am reminded of –
VINEETO: “So close as to be already here” … it
looks like you are now savouring the ever-increasing splendour of ‘your’ approaching "blaze of glory" (Mailing List ‘AF’
Respondent No. 7 I have remarked before), moment by moment, hesitating only to savour it even more for all
it’s worth. KUBA: Oh wow yes savouring indeed, I can hardly contain myself haha. I was driving from the shops with Sonya yesterday and I had a smile glued permanently to my face . To see that in actual freedom there is only enjoyment and appreciation, the method makes perfect sense all of a sudden! This morning ‘I’ have already said ‘my’ good-byes haha, now ‘I’ am happily
anticipating what will happen next. VINEETO: Hi Kuba, I couldn’t resist. Did you really only now find out why the actualism method makes perfect sense? I had such a good laugh, thank you – and I am glad you understand experientially now. Enjoying and appreciating is indeed the beginning, the middle and the end and more of it beyond the end – one needs thorough practice to prepare for life in Terra Australis.;) Just as it says on the forth scrolling banner of This Moment of Being Alive –
Bye, bye ‘Kuba’, it was great fun knowing you.
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